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Craig77
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Posted: October/05/2009 at 23:18 |
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I need to purchase a scope for a flat top AR which my 9yoa daughter will be using for Hunting and Target shooting.
Hunting will be in forests, brush, field edges and across fields. Thus something in the 1-6x variable range would be preferred. Also I would prefer the exit pupil to be in the 30mm range but I am not firm on that. It cannot cost more than $100-$110 firm. It's only needed for this season as I will upgrade and relegate it to a lesser rifle after tax time. I currently have my eye on the http://swfa.com/Vortex-15-4x32-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P11239.aspx Can anyone recommend this or have other options. Thanx |
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danjojoUSMC
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You might be able to find a great deal on http://www.samplelist.com so you get a higher level scope for the price.
I've only seen feedback on the higher magnification Crossfire models and they were pretty positive for the cost of the scopes. The Vortex company itself is awesome so you don't gotta worry about getting a replacement for free as long as they are around. You can go ahead and let it bang around, not worry if your daughter drops it on accident.
The two small Crossfire scopes being 14 ounces though, they are kinda heavy for what they are. You might want to keep the search going. Is the AR a trim 16" barrel model or a more heavy varminter type set up?
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Also, if you can bump up a little more the scopes that Urimaginaryfrnd recommends pretty often, Bushnell Trophy 1-4 and 1.5-6, would be perfect for you too. They are a little heavier but they have illumination which you might really like. I think they have a 30mm tube which is what I'm guessing you was mentioning in your post when you said exit pupil.
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Also I would prefer the exit pupil to be in the 30mm range but I am not firm on that.
1 power x 30mm exit eye pupil =30mm objective 2 x 30mm exit eye pupil =60mm objective
A 6 power x 42mm objective has a 42 divided by 6 = 7mm exit eye pupil which is as bright as the Human eye can use (with other species that may differ).
In that price range my first though is there is really nothing wrong with teaching her to use open sights. If what you are wanting is a 30mm tube 1.5-6x42 scope this is a bit over the price but seems to be what you are looking for.
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That 100$ Trophy should work well if you're looking for close cover...
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Craig77
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Thanx for the great replies.
The rifle she will be using is a standard 16in AR. She has been involved in 4H shooting sports and we shoot frequently at our property thus she is pretty good with iron sites for a 9yoa.
Last year she used a borrowed 224 Weatherby magnum w/ scope to hunt with her uncle. She missed a nice 8 point with it.
This year I have been giving her some needed scope/rifle training using a TASCO scoped 22 magnum. I own three ARs (Colt, Charles Daly, CMMG) and recognize it is a great platform to teach the young ones how to shoot a high caliber rifle without scaring them to death. I just recently purchased the Charles Daly so my bank is broke. My original plan was to buy a good QD mount and cheaper scope. I only have a need for one mount so a cheaper one would be a wasted purchase. Any scope I purchase would not be a waste because I have several unscoped .22 and the TASCO could use to be replaced.
I am playing with the idea of not getting the QD mount and getting a good non QD mount at a cheaper price.
She will be shooting from a fixed position with support available so weight is not important.
I do keep coming back to the $150 Bushnells Urimaginaryfrnd recommended.
Keep the ideas coming I sure appreciate it !!!
Semper Fi
I have also been eying Primary Arms 1-4x but they are not sold on here so I am sceptical.
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Thanx again
I have decided I am going with the SWFA Mount and either the Bushnell 1-4x24 Trophy 30mm Rifle Scope or Bushnell 1.5-6x42 Trophy 30mm Rifle Scope Which one do you guys think would best work for my purposes. I am leaning toward the latter one. |
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Its a toss up the 1.5-6x42 will be bright even at 6x. I think either would be a good choice.
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Anyone have an opinion on the Weaver 1-3x20 Classic V. It seems to get great reviews. How does it compare to what I am already looking at.
I am a bit leary because of the maximum 3x.
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Good call, I got one a while back and think it is a very good mount. Gives you perfect height and allows the proper eye relief. I plan on getting more. |
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Mr. Happy
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SWFA sells the mount with a Millet 1-4x24 that has a donut in the reticle (easier to find close in) and has scope flip covers. Its a bit more than the Bushnell - I don't know if the quality of the glass is better.
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Mr. Happy
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Where's the edit button? I forgot to mention that as a package you save $10 on the mount.
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Craig77
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Thanx. Makes me feel more confident about choosing it.
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Craig77
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Thanx. Makes me feel more confident for my choice.
Sorry previous post I accidentally quoted on the Millet which was an error.
Anyways the Millet is a bit out of my price range and has had some mixed reviews.
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Craig77
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Ditto on the edit button
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Mr. Happy
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The mixed reviews was for some fungus that was growing inside a previous shipment. SWFA said the newest shipment is clean as a whistle. Millet is made by Bushnell now. The combo (with the discount) is $250. But yes, if going by name alone, a Bushnell that's cheaper than a Millet is interesting. I've asked Bushnell and SWFA to send me PM's explaining whether there's a quality or feature difference other than the reticle and the flip covers.
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Craig77
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Thanx for the info Mr. Happy
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what about a good little 2-7, like a Nikon for 120 bucks?
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Craig77
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I have looked at Nikon but cant say I have seen much feedback about them.
Anyone have any comments about Leupold compared to the ones I have looked at.
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