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Recently purchased very lightweight synthetic stock .300 WSM, and looking to put some new glass on it.  Expect to use it for just about anything from Whitetails in South Texas, hogs in the brush, sheep and elk in the mountains...  most shots will be at 100 - 250yds, but some at 400 or more...  More concerned about performance than appearance with this particular rifle.

 

Anyway, I am looking for scope recommendations to fit these criteria:

  • Very rugged construction/good warranty - needs to take heavy recoil of .300 WSM (and probably a little abuse in the field).  Along these lines, some of the adjustment-locking post designs, or dual springs, etc, are interesting, but I have no experience with them.  But, really, the specific design is not important - just needs to work & hold zero. 
  • 3-12x variable power - I know many folks will say 9x is enough, but I personally would like a bit more
  • Illuminated ballistic reticle
  • Less than 50mm objective (40 - 44mm is about right).  Guess I don't have a stong opinion about adjustable vs. fixed objective/parallax focus, but if it has it, the side-adjustable versions are pretty nice...

I've trolled through your site here for hours reading other topics and comparing various scopes/manufacturer's features, and have worked myself down to a short list - but I'm going to wait to share it because I don't want to bias the discussion - I'd like to see which brands/models get put in play first. 

 

I WILL say that their is a nice Schmidt & Bender model that comes very close to fitting the bill, but not sure I can swallow the $2K price tag.  I'd probably not want to spend more than $1000 - 1250 (let me rephrase that - my wife would really not want me to spend more than $250, but I'm willing to take $1000 worth of dog-house time).

 

Any thoughts / advise are greatly appreciated...      

 

 

 

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Here are a few that come real close to what you are looking for, but none of them have illumination.  You may have to sacrifice some of the criteria you are wanting. The Swarovski doesn't have an outside parallax adjustment, but it will offer the best glass. It also has the TDS bullet drop reticle. Which would be very useful for those longer shots. Zeiss would be your next best bet. It has the smaller objective you are looking for. As well as the side focus. It still lacks the illuminated reticle, but is very close to your specifications. The Leupold is in the same boat as the Zeiss. It just doesn't have the optics the Zeiss has to offer. You can really make your wife happy with the Bushnell. It will have the largest power range, the 40mm obj, outside parallax adjustment located at the objective, and real nice optics. 

 

If your main concern is optics the Swarovski is the way to go. If the add ons and other options interest you more the Zeiss conquest will be your best bet. If you don't wanna spend time in the dog house The 4200 is the way to go.

 

Swarovski 4-12x50 American Riflescope......$998.95

Zeiss 4.5-14x44 Conquest Rifle Scope....... $699.95

Leupold 4.5-14x40 VX-III 30mm Riflescope...... $599.95

Bushnell 4-16x40 Elite 4200.......$418.95

 

 

We just listed over 100 Swarovski scope on our sample list that you may like. Here is one that nearly fits your criteria.

 

3890 Swarovski 3-12x50 Professional Hunter Click for Picture Matte finish, 30mm tube, Illuminated Plex-N reticle, fast focus shock absorbing eye piece, resettable windage & elevation, no ring marks, 100% new in box dealer sample. $2,143.00 $1,699.95

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Thanks, Brady - appreciate the help.  Your suggestions are pretty close to what I'd come up with, although I also had a Burris Signature Select 4-16x44AO w/ illuminated Ball-plex reticle on my list.  I notice it is conspicuously absent from your list... Any special reason?  Where would you rank it among these others?

 

Went looking around several local stores yesterday, and have to say the Leupold B&C reticle is really nice...  I also could not tell the difference between the Zeiss and the Swarovsky, but they wouldn't let me take them home to try side by side at twilight...

 

One other question - which gives more relative improvement tube size or objective size?  In other words, if you had scopes that were identical in all respects (glass, coatings, magnification, adjustments, etc), but you could choose to either increase the body tube from 1" to 30mm, or choose to increase the objective from 40mm to 44mm, which would you choose?

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Good find..... I was just thinking off the top of my head with what I came up with. It has everything you are looking for. Wouldn't be a bad choice either. The optics would be on par with the leupold and Bushnell. The Swarovski followed by the Zeiss will still have an advantage in optics.

 

The differences between any scope is hard to tell in storerooms under artificial lighting. When they are taken outside especially under twilight conditions. The differences are easily noticed.

 

Increasing the tube size will only increase one thing. Thats the amount of MOA the scope has. The larger objective is only noticed when you start to utilize the higher power of the scope. This is due to the exit pupil. Which is calculated from the objective being divided by the magnification. Your eye will only dilate at a maximum of 5mm. So if the exit pupil solution is more than 5 you are simply over scoping. So if you are shooting less than 400 yards stick with a 1" tube. If you use the higher powers mainly go with the larger objective. Do a search on here. This very topic has been discussed numerous of times.

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Fair 'nuff.  Thanks again...

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