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I know this has been beaten to death, but I am trying to find the best pair of hunting bino's for $400 or less. 

I have a good amount of central vision loss in one eye, but my perifrial vison is excellent. 

My other eye is fine. 

I have been looking through a lot of glass lately. I looked through some Pentax porro's today 8x40 and they did very well.  

I like porro binos and have a pair of burris 10x42 landmarks II that aint making the grade.

I hunt all over mostly spot and stalk or stand hunting.  They cover varies from wide open to heavy timber.

Weight isnt a concern and infact I liked the heaviness of the pentax very much.

Optical quality is priority.  I was always told you can get a great set of porro's in this price range over roof's?

Long life is also very important to me. I don't want to be replacing anytime soon.

I use a leupold VX-III 2.5-8x32 on my rifle and like it very much.

Thanks for any advise.

Bob
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Bob there is plenty of roof prisms out there (since that seems to be the trend) that will offer decent glass in the price range you are looking at.

 
Yes, you are correct that usually dollar for dollar a poro is cheaper to make "better" then a roof of similar cost, that is a broad statement but generally true especially in the lower price ranges.
 
If your looking for a great Poro design I would highly suggest
 
 
Or a bit more but even better
 
 
I bought both pairs and gave the standard model to my father who has always used junk for binoculars he along with all of his hunting buddy"s were very impressed.  I picked up the ED pair for myself fantastic glass, they were my primary binculars till I bought a pair of Swarovski.
 
So owning Swarovski which is considered some of the best glass on the market along with Ziess and Leica I can honestly tell you that the Swifts are almost as nice and do it for alot less money.  Birders have known about the Swifrt Audubon for years but they have been over looked by hunters.
 
Here is a link that a birding forum did in comparision to some other top glass and the Swifts really hold their own
 
I hunt with Swarovski, each of my buddies hunt with Zeiss and Leica (yes optics snobs Big Smile) all have been very very impressed with my Swifts.  I even compared them to the new Rave Zen ray's (which are very nice for the money) but in terms of low light, depth perception the Swifts were right behind the alpha glass we compared them to.  The Swifts beat out to mine and my buddies eyes the Zen's, his older Zeiss Classics and even his sons Zeiss Conquests........so in conclusion if your looking for some really nice glass in a poro I'd look real hard at the Swifts
 
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Bob,
 
Minox BD 8x44 BP Porro binocular.
See my PM.
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Zen Ray ED2's right here at SWFA fit your budget and are great.  Best glass @ $1000 and under. 
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I don't know if I'd say the best glass under $1,000.00, but a fantastic value at around $400.00.
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Originally posted by bob vetter bob vetter wrote:

I know this has been beaten to death, but I am trying to find the best pair of hunting bino's for $400 or less. 

I have a good amount of central vision loss in one eye, but my perifrial vison is excellent. 

My other eye is fine. 

I have been looking through a lot of glass lately. I looked through some Pentax porro's today 8x40 and they did very well.  

I like porro binos and have a pair of burris 10x42 landmarks II that aint making the grade.

I hunt all over mostly spot and stalk or stand hunting.  They cover varies from wide open to heavy timber.

Weight isnt a concern and infact I liked the heaviness of the pentax very much.

Optical quality is priority.  I was always told you can get a great set of porro's in this price range over roof's?

Long life is also very important to me. I don't want to be replacing anytime soon.

I use a leupold VX-III 2.5-8x32 on my rifle and like it very much.

Thanks for any advise.

Bob
 
Bob:
First question is what is your budget?  Then the posters here will quickly be able to give
a better answer to your question.  New or used?   The SWFA sample list can often yield
a great choice of a high quality pick at a great price savings, which may carry a full warranty.
 
You didn't state size preference, but from you have stated an 8x may be best or 10x
on open field.
 
Jerry
 
 
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What's better?  I've compared them with some good stuff.  
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Personally, I think my Swifts are better. After hearing all the hype about the ZR ED2 a friend and I got a pair and compared them to his older Zeiss, his new Zeiss Fl's, a pair of Zeiss Conquests my Swarovski's and my Swifts.

During normal day light hours I would have given the brightness edge to the Zeiss Fl's but I like the warmer image of my Swaro's but the Zens were about the same as my Swifts both of which were better then the older Zeiss classics. The Swifts had a better field of view just as clear and bright and gave an image with more depth to it. While the Zens were clear and bright the image felt "flat" like looking at a clear picture if that makes sense.

But we both agreed that it was great glass at that price point. When the sun went down that is where they got left behind. All the Zeiss including the old classics, my Swaro's and the Swifts had better low light capability. Looking at a brick chimney all the other's could make out the lines between the bricks where the Zens could not.

Good buy...absolutely...best under a grand? Debatable.

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While trying numerous mid-size binocs this summer, I tried a pair of Zen Ray 7x36 EDII because of all the hype. I must have gotten a bad one as I wound up sending it back. The only pro was it had good "pop" in the middle of the view only but it was downhill from there on about everything else. My Zeiss FL , Leica Trinovid compact, and previous Swarovski's have ruined me for life.

I wound up getting a Leupold GR 8x32 non-HD binoc for $339 online, and now that same listing is down to $299. A bit hefty at 27oz but an excellent value for the money. 
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Thanks for they replies everyone, I have ordered a pair of Leupold GR 8x32. I think they will fit the bill.

Thanks again everyone.

Bob
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Bob:
 
You be sure to report back with how you like the Leupold.  Quality built, and warranty,
that is very well respected.
 
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My Glass will be here on Monday, I will report back.

Bob
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Got the bino's , the Leupold 8x32 GR's non-HD. Let me just say they are awesome. I am very impressed so far. I will be doing more looking this evening. 

I can't believe I own some good glass, finally ! 

Bob
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