As they say "no harm no foul".
Also Thanks for the warm welcomes.
On with the business at hand, while I like the Zeiss and can't figure how to get it in my price range with the price guarantee, I have been comparing the spec.s between the Loopy VX-2, 4-12 and the Vortex, Viper 4-12, same price, I like the fact that the Loopy is 5 oz lighter and 2.1 inches shorter, I do like the Dead Hold reticle on the Vortex. The gun is already 9lb.s and the weight of the Loopy sounds inviting.
Skylar that is also a great deal on the Redfield, since I have a little more money in my budget I would like to purchase a scope that gives me just a little bit more quality for the little bit of extra cash in the kitty, if thats possible, maybe I'm better off just getting the Redfield and saving the money, unfortunately I already have the PEPR mount, I don't know if Redfield is in the same class as the Loopy and the Vortex, I just assume it isn't since it's less in price. It is the same length as the Loopy and only 1.5 oz.s heavier.
Any other suggestions/recommendations ?