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I am trying to scope a Ruger Magnum in 375 H&H. With the max height rings I want to use I am limited to an outside objective diameter of 40mm. The minimum mount length is 5.5" (actually 138mm) and that allows for zero fore / aft adjustment. I really don't want to go to offset mounts/rings for several reasons. I want a low end of 2x max and excellent low light capability. I don't think the straight tube "Africa Safari" tubes will give me the low light capability I'm looking for. Eye relief is important beacuse of caliber and mount length limitations. If I find what I want I'll pay the price but I haven't been able to find anything of any quality that will fit the bill. Any ideas? Thanks in advance...
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Have you thought about a rail mount sytem instead?  Got a friend with a lathe?  

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Low light capabilty is really a function of the optical quality and exit pupil size.  For example, an objective lens of 24mm will provide a 6mm exit pupil at 4x.  A larger objective lens at 4x magnification really makes no difference whatsoever.  Hence, if you are not looking for high magnification, you really do not need a large objective lens.

 

What's your budget?  THat will dictate the recommendations.

 

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I understand exit pupil size and glass quality/coatings effects on light transmission. I am not looking for a "large" objective, however the scopes I have found that will mount without offset mounts/rings are all straight tube objectives and I don't believe that they are designed necessarily for low light applications. I think going with the largest objective I can mount with the best glass I can get is the way to go. My budget is to buy this once and I view as least as important as the rifle itself. The rifle lists for around $1900 so while the cost of glass is a consideration, it is not the primary consideration. I'm beginning to think I'll have to go with an offset mount or ring to get what I need. Ideally I'd like a 32-36mm optical objective with a long mount tube length and lots of eye relief and a large FOV. I realize the things I want are working against each other, but I want what I want.Most smaller objective scopes are designed to be light and short, features which are not important for my application.
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check out the 2.5X10 Nightforce. 30mm maintube and 30mm bell
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Thanks Dale. That looks pretty good. It's late (or early) depending on your point of view but I'll have to give them a call. Are they only available direct? I don't see any dealer info on their site - or prices. I have never seen a Nightforce before much less looked through one. I have read of their quality though. Their reticles look good too. I am looking at the NP-1 and NP-R2 reticles. Any other choices that I should consider? Thanks again to all.
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Lilja Precision Rifle Barrels is a Nightforce dealer and they are located in the same neck of the woods.http://www.riflebarrels.com/products/nightforce_scopes .htm

It looks like a new lower power scope is soon to be released 1-4x24mm, not sure how long it will be??

I,m not sure why my link don't work...I'l try it again below.

www.riflebarrels.com  

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Any gun dealer (your favorite) can become a Nightforce dealer and there is no minimum.

silent- the Np-1 should work if I remeber it, my choice would be the FC-2 (I think its called)   the NP-R2 is a long range or target affair,  which I use on an 8X32, I would pick something less busy, for the shooting engagement you describe, especially on a heavie in deep brush, in the dark, alone.

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Thanks again to all for taking the time to respond. As far as the reticles go - yes I want to use it in low light and short range, however that is not my only use. A 375 H&H is usually looked at as a dangerous game rifle but it is very useful at longer range also. Trajectories depending on load compare with a 270 to 30-06 (with alot more wallop). I have used BDC scopes on other rifles with good success and like that capability. I have not used a lit reticle but have been in situations where I wished I had one. Texas hogs for one. I am concerned with a busy reticle at the 12 o'clock position. What is the purpose for increments above the horizontal? If I was planning an Africa hunt I would go with a 1-4x but for North America I can use more magnification
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The 2.5x10 would make an outstanding "sniperscope" wide FOV enough mag to get the job done. I'm assuming your referring to the NP-r2 reticle. I use a 300-400 yard cross setting and the higher ones for closer ranges depending on what cal. I've got the scope on. One of the main reasons I bought the scope.
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Yes I was referring to the NP-R2. I understand now how it could be used but that wouldn't work for me. Close shots and I'm going to be going for the reticle center. Old dog and new tricks thing. I do like the 2 moa breakdown. Do you know the subtensions for the FC-2 circle and post? That might be a good way to go for me.
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Never Mind...    I found the specs on the FC-2. Thanks to all for your help.
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