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So I finally recieved my Vortex 6-24x50 scope for my Remington 597 .22 LR (a bit over kill).

http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx

I knew I needed a high profile mount for this large scope, and that I needed a 30mm tube (or so I thought). So I ordered an accushot high profile 30mm picatinny/weaver mount.

Needless to say since I am making this post, the scope mount is not the right size. The base is way to wide for my weaver base on my rifle (it seems to fit a standard picatinny style fine but I don't have that. That wouldn't be so much trouble in its own, but the rings are too large, as fully tightened they still don't contact the suppossed 30mm tube on the scope??

Long story short, does anyone know what kind of mount I need to make this work? It should be easy as the scope says it has a 30mm tube, so 30mm rings should work, but they are too large.

Can anyone help me out here?
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Accushot, I beleive thats leapers brand. Forget them, get a good brand. Leupold, burris, warne, weaver. For 22 Weaver has plenty good rings for a good price.
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Did you even read my post?

The quality of it is not the problem at all. Its the size and fitting that I need help with.
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Yes I did, it sounds like you got the wrong peice. I might be mistaken here but you got Pic/weaver mount on a gun that I know of having 22 mounts.  They do make one with a pic rail but that is the ar style one. Even if you got a weaver mounts. Sometimes mounts that are designed for PIC wont fit on weaver. Its kind of the thing. Weaver rings can go on pic or weaver bases, but Pic really only goes on Pic bases, some go on weaver but not all. 

So do you have the weaver bases or the normal 22 rail?
If you have the 22 you will have to get new rings anyway cause your piece wont work.
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Originally posted by CALL911 CALL911 wrote:


http://swfa.com/Vortex-6-24x50-Crossfire-Rifle-Scope-P43585.aspx


Needless to say since I am making this post, the scope mount is not the right size. The base is way to wide for my weaver base on my rifle (it seems to fit a standard picatinny style fine but I don't have that. That wouldn't be so much trouble in its own, but the rings are too large, as fully tightened they still don't contact the suppossed 30mm tube on the scope??

Can anyone help me out here?
 
The scope has a 1" tube not 30mm.  Problem solved
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the scope is listed as 30mm tube
 
So i dunno. either your scope is messed up or the rings are wrong. my guess is the rings.
 
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This scope comes in both 30mm, and 1''.

According to the model of scope you posted, it has a 1'' tube.

So, I go with these rings;

http://swfa.com/Leupold-PRW-1-Rings-P1220.aspx

What I do to make sure I get the right ring height, is I use same size drill bits between the scope and the gun's base. I keep changing sizes until I get the desired height. The I look for a set of rings close to that measurement.

The above rings would equal to a 1/2 drill bit. Top the base to the bottom of the ring mounting cradle is .5 on those rings.

I hope this is what you are looking for.















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This is the one his original post links to.
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Well theres your problem. SVT comes through again  Thunbs Up

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Originally posted by snakeman48 snakeman48 wrote:

This scope comes in both 30mm, and 1''.

According to the model of scope you posted, it has a 1'' tube.

So, I go with these rings;

http://swfa.com/Leupold-PRW-1-Rings-P1220.aspx

What I do to make sure I get the right ring height, is I use same size drill bits between the scope and the gun's base. I keep changing sizes until I get the desired height. The I look for a set of rings close to that measurement.

The above rings would equal to a 1/2 drill bit. Top the base to the bottom of the ring mounting cradle is .5 on those rings.

I hope this is what you are looking for.
 
 
I had these rings good rings, just make sure to  put a dollar bill over the scopeg then put the top of the rings on. then slide the dollar bill out. keep from scratching upt he tube trying to get the rings on.
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Here is an Ideal that may work for you.  Call SWFA, tell them what you have and what you need, tell them your budget, they will get you the right height and size that will fit your gun and for the budget you want.
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The leupold PRW rings won't fit either they are made for a weaver rail he has a .22 rail I believe. You need some high 1" .22 rings. Like these.
 
Millett .22 Caliber Scope 1 Millett .22 Caliber Scope 1" Rings
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I have a standard weaver rail. I'm not sure what a .22 rail even is.

The original mount I had said it was for "picatinny/weaver", but in reality it was for picatinny only and does NOT mount to the weaver. That is half the problem.

The other half, is that the scope does in fact come in either 30mm size or 1 inch size. The 30mm size is supposed to be the new one, and thats what I figured I had seing as how I just recieved the scope a week ago. However, the 30mm rings are too large, and thus concludes that I do in fact need the 1 inch rings.

The scope is large, and I am figuring I still need a high profile mount, but with the 1 inch rings and weaver mount. There are plenty of options as far as where to go from there, just at the time, I couldn't figure out what I needed.

Thanks for those with constructive input   

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If this is your rail looks similar to this

Then I would simply call SWFA and and tell them your gun, ur base, and ur scope. They will be able to pick you out soemthing with the correct height.
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[QUOTE=CALL911]
Needless to say since I am making this post, the scope mount is not the right size. The base is way to wide for my weaver base on my rifle (it seems to fit a standard picatinny style fine but I don't have that. That wouldn't be so much trouble in its own, but the rings are too large, as fully tightened they still don't contact the suppossed 30mm tube on the scope??
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When you say the mount is to wide for you base, that makes me think you might be mistaken for 22 rail. cause pic and weaver have the same width. just the slots are made different.
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Well, the picture you linked, is not what I have, however my wife's .22 (Ruger .22) has the exact same weaver style mine has, and her weaver scope mount fit perfect. Perhaps you are infact correct, and I have a ".22 rail".

The faded part is all my rifle has. The darker part is an add on, perhaps a weaver or picatinny rail.





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Weaver Six hole tacticals are a good value for the money.

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Originally posted by stork23raz stork23raz wrote:

[QUOTE=CALL911]
Needless to say since I am making this post, the scope mount is not the right size. The base is way to wide for my weaver base on my rifle (it seems to fit a standard picatinny style fine but I don't have that. That wouldn't be so much trouble in its own, but the rings are too large, as fully tightened they still don't contact the suppossed 30mm tube on the scope??
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When you say the mount is to wide for you base, that makes me think you might be mistaken for 22 rail. cause pic and weaver have the same width. just the slots are made different.
That is exactly what I was thinking.
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That is a weaver rail.  You will have to call and figure out ur ring height. But I say Burris signature zee rings are an excellent ring  for the money. Anything made by weaver is good. it basically comes down to how much u want to spend and how good you want it to look. Personal choice. decide how much you want to spend. I would stay with a  major brand though.
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I think its actually called a "dovetail".
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Dovetail refers to .22 some of those bases come with the option of using either dovetail or weaver. i would go with the weaver route if this is the case where it will accept both. If it is stricly Dovetail it will take .22 rings. if it has those cross slots go with Weaver style.
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Rifle, price matters. Scope, price matters almost even more. Scope mounts... I have seen crazy expensive ones, and cheep ones, and honestly they all serve the same purpose and do it with the same level of success. Now, if you had a high powered rifle with a lot of recoil, I can see some of the cheeper ones coming loose, but for a .22, once you tighten everything down, I just can't see any difference other than how it looks, and how much it ended up costing you.
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Originally posted by CALL911 CALL911 wrote:

Rifle, price matters. Scope, price matters almost even more. Scope mounts... I have seen crazy expensive ones, and cheep ones, and honestly they all serve the same purpose and do it with the same level of success. Now, if you had a high powered rifle with a lot of recoil, I can see some of the cheeper ones coming loose, but for a .22, once you tighten everything down, I just can't see any difference other than how it looks, and how much it ended up costing you.
 
no offense but thats  Cencored  all rings are not recreated equal. quality counts. even on 22's you might not need badgar or nightforce but you need some good rings.
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So what specifically makes them better? Why would spending more money on the more expensive ones benefit me over one of the cheeper ones?
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