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I'm looking for a scope to put on my new Savage Hog Hunter 308. I'm going to start increasing my range out to 500-600yd, and will eventually wander out to 1000yd. It will also be used for hunting from 50-300yds. I would like something with a top end magnification around 20-25x, exposed turrets, and some sort of holdover reticle. Illum would be nice for night shots with my ND3, but probably can't afford it and still get a good scope. Here is what I'm considering:

Millet LRS 6.5-25x56 mil-dot -$450 (this was my buddies suggestion)
Falcon Menace 5.5-25x50 EMD FFP -$450
Vortex Viper 6-20x50 mil-dot -$450

I would have to say that the Vortex has the lead at this point based on the fact that I own a Viper and absolutely love it. It is crystal clear, and their customer service/warranty is second to none. However, the other 2 seem like a lot of scope for the money. But that also makes me think they may suffer in optical clarity because of this. Other scopes i have considered:

Vortex Viper HS - The BDC reticle is different from the plain Viper line, and was way too thin for my eyes.
Viper HS-T - This seems to have all the feature I want, but they only offer a 4-16x model. This may very well be enough to shoot precision at 600yd, but I have a hard time seeing the target well enough at 200yds on 9x to hit tight groups.
Sightmark 8.5-25x50 - I checked this one out at my local shop, and it seemed to have pretty decent glass. But at $200, how good could it be?

I appreciate any and all suggestions, comments, etc. You see the range I'm in, and if I keep it around there that will leave me $150 or so for rings and a base. I would also appreciate some suggestions on those a well.
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Well with a little more thought, I've decided to spend a little more and go with the Viper PST 6-24X50. I figured why spend $500 and regret not spending another $200 to get pretty much exactly what I'm looking for, and great quality.

I really would appreciate some input, ANY input, on rings and a base. Wanting to go ahead and get a 20moa base, but really need a suggestion on which base and rings (i.e. ring height, mfg., steel vs. aluminum). Can a good set be gotten for $150??
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Hi, Doc.

Is 6x on the bottom going work for you on a 50 yard shot on a game animal? 


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Howdy DocEvans.
Vortex lists the objective bell radius as 1.13" on that PST. Their medium 30mm tac ring has centerline .97" above the base, so that height ring or similar should work on any good steel 20moa base.  I'd ask an expert, though, like someone at SWFA or Vortex before ordering.


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Get the Vortex.
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I'm looking at getting this deadnutz 1 piece mount

http://swfa.com/DNZ-Game-Reaper-Tactical-30mm-Scopemount-P56423.aspx

Anyone have any experience with it, or is there any reason NOT to buy it? Any reason I should be looking at a base+rings mount over the 1 piece?? Once this scope is mounted I fully intend on leaving it there for the long run, so the ability to take it on and off is not a factor.
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Originally posted by DocEvans DocEvans wrote:

I'm looking at getting this deadnutz 1 piece mount

http://swfa.com/DNZ-Game-Reaper-Tactical-30mm-Scopemount-P56423.aspx

Anyone have any experience with it, or is there any reason NOT to buy it? Any reason I should be looking at a base+rings mount over the 1 piece?? Once this scope is mounted I fully intend on leaving it there for the long run, so the ability to take it on and off is not a factor.
I have a Game Reaper in a drawer. It seems robust, but has tiny aluminum edges at the corners of the rings, which made aluminum marks on the scope during a try fit. The marks rubbed off with little effort. The edges were black and invisible before the try- fit.While a bit of fine grit sandpaper would have taken the ring edges down a bit, I used that scope somewhere else and never mounted anything in the DNZ. I'm sure it would be just fine.


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I'd recommend the Talley lightweights. Nothing wrong with the DNZ mount you mentioned, (made here in NC), but these Talley's are great and you can keep your ejection port clear. 
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I would love to keep my ejection port open, but the lightweight Talleys aren't offered with 20moa built in. Any ideas on a 2 piece mount with 20moa? Talley has good prices, and I've read great things about them. They do have a 20moa picatinny base for about $50 and several sets of rings for less than that, so if a 2 piece can't be found I might just go with that.

And cheaptrick, to answer your question from earlier, I think 6x will be ok at 50yds. It will greatly reduce my FOV, but I think I could make it work if it came down to it. I've got other rifles with lower mag glass if I'm going to be in a thicker spot where I can't even see/shoot past 75-100yds.
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OK, Doc. Best of luck! 
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I have 2 of the Dnz mounts, i like them, i switched one out for the talley lw rings and love them, i believe with either mount you wont go wrong

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