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Im in the process of building a 10/22 with heavy barrel, nice trigger, etcetcetc. The purpose of the rifle is mostly to push the envelope of the .22lr caliber in terms of "effective range" so that i can practice long distance shooting with all its "com-ups" for fairly cheap. Ive decided that for the next while Ill spend more time learning about marksmanship rather then behind my .308 shooting for fun.
 
Anyhow, to get to the point, Ill need scope thats fairly inexpensive but can track very well. Distances will be around 200 meters, unless i can get it going further. I was thinking of a Meuller 4-16 x 50, however my second choice would be a SS 10x.
 
I guess the real question(S) would be: How does the Mueller stack up to the SS, and is the SS necissary for the extra 80 bucks?
 
My biggest concern is how the Muller tracks.
 
As always, any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry, also wanted to point out that ILL be poppin rodents with it too ;)....which is just pointing out the obvious.
 
Also, anyone have any links or forums dedicated to .22lr long range shooting, or hunting? Im not to big on the guys with the million dollar target rifles, just regular stuff.
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Inexpensive,  precision, track very well, fairly cheap.
Which words do no belong???
Tikka, you would have to lower your expectations if you need a cheap scope.
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The SS has a very good reputation around here but the variable will give you more versatility for eliminating pests.
I haven't personally used a Meuller but they are picking up some fans here @ O.T.
For rimfire talk visit http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/ There is a lot of 10/22 fans there.
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The Swift premier, The Millett TRS-1, Mueller, any of these should do nicely. Yes I too would recommend the variable.
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8shot, Yeah, i kind of have high hopes for this dont i? lol which was kind of why i made this post to begin with. Can I get away with using 200 - 250 dolar scopes, or am i gonna have to put in a little more cash? Id rather not, but i will need something to do the job.
 
Has anyone any advice on the tracking of these scopes?
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Originally posted by cyborg cyborg wrote:

The Swift premier, The Millett TRS-1, Mueller, any of these should do nicely. Yes I too would recommend the variable.
 
All of these come in the magnification range you suggest and are a good choice. If you would be willing to look at a 3-9 with adjustable objective the Weaver is a good choice. The reticle is heavy enough for hunting and it is fully multi-coated and constucted like their big game scopes. This magnification will let you make head shots at all reasonable .22 ranges.
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The answer may be to go to a fixed power scope of 4x or 6x. The argument being that with a .22 your range is and should be limited to 100yds max? I do not know about going to 200yds with a .22 cal????
Buying a low magnification fixed power would make it less expensive, permitting you to upgrade on glass and tracking ability, which is the other requirements you are looking for.


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What about getting the Bushnell 10 x 40mm? it costs less and wouldnt be over scoping the thing like a SS
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This isn't what you asked, but a .17HMR or even a .17HM2 would be a better round for shooting 200 meters and cost would still be a lot less than a .308.  If you shop around, you can find 50 rounds of HMR for $10 or HM2 for $6/7.  The HMR is very capable of 200 meters.
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I was considering it, but for a rifle thats main role would be for target shooting, you cant beat the price of 22lr.
 
On a side note, at what distance does the round become subsonic?
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Also, to keep you updated, I bought a Savage. The one with the laminate thumbhole stock, vented forestock, accutrigger etcetcetc. Now that is a nice peice of kit for the money. I figured for the application i dont really need a semi anyhow.
 
So as you can see, I want to get a scope for it pretty bad now
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What does "subsonic" mean?   
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Below the speed of sound.
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The speed of sound is 1120fps. A 22lr leaves the barrel at about 1240fps. It becomes subsonic within 50yds.
 
 
 


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One more wuestion, has any one used a millet tactical before?
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The TRS-1 is a good scope, I wouldn't say a great scope, for the money it's a great scope.  
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with the 17HMR AT 200 meters, better be VERY good at dopeing the wind.
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

What does "subsonic" mean?   
 
 
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Well if the point is to be able to learn to use a tactical scope I would stay with a Super Sniper and one of the main reasons is the huge amount of internal adjustment this scope has- and with a rapidly dropping .22  you will need that internal adjustment. I have had both the 10x and the 20x and while the 10x is a great all around scope for what you are talking shooting paper at 200 yds I believe I would buy the Super Sniper 20x and live with the fact that it is a bright daylight scope and will look grey in low light. Also noteworthy is how it would perform on rodents at distance. While the .22 is underpowered it is affordable and you wont have to spend time reloading or spend the kind of money that 22 mag or 17 HMR cost.  The 17 HMR would be the most accurate of course because of its much better bullet design.  The advantage of a variable is that  you can dial it down for hunting or in lower light. The advantage of the Super Sniper is that parallex will focus down to about 12 yds and most scopes wont focus down closer than 50 to 75 yds.   My vote is for the 20x Super Sniper.
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

What does "subsonic" mean?   
 
Thats one of those long sandwitches on french bread with lots of different cold cuts and cheeses that you can get at Sonic with your root beer float.
 
So that means Super Sonic is when you Super Size the fries and drink.Bandito


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Originally posted by Tikka Tikka wrote:

Im in the process of building a 10/22 with heavy barrel, nice trigger, etcetcetc. The purpose of the rifle is mostly to push the envelope of the .22lr caliber in terms of "effective range" so that i can practice long distance shooting with all its "com-ups" for fairly cheap. Ive decided that for the next while Ill spend more time learning about marksmanship rather then behind my .308 shooting for fun.
 
Anyhow, to get to the point, Ill need scope thats fairly inexpensive but can track very well. Distances will be around 200 meters, unless i can get it going further. I was thinking of a Meuller 4-16 x 50, however my second choice would be a SS 10x.
 


Did you say 200 meters and .22LR in the same sentence?  Did you mean "shoot" a .22LR out to 200 meters or did you mean shoot a .22LR to 20 meters and accidentally throw in an extra "0"?


A 200-meter .22LR shot would be something akin to a 1,500-meter .308 shot - in other words, would virtually prove demon possession or divine luck.  If you can successfully and consistently deploy a .22LR at 200 meters and hit small targets, you should be in Vegas where that luck can really pay off.

I too am setting up a heavy-barrel .22LR but for short range work.  I need a good scope with 50-yard parallax and am still trying to figure the best fit.  I "could" spend $1,000 on a scope, by why, it's a .22 taking a 20-yard shot.

Also, mine will be suppressed; so I got that going for me, which is nice.


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