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I know to many of you the words inexpensive and spotting scope s/b mutually exclusive but it would be nice if there was a comparison artice similar to the inexpensive scope article done by Koskin. In my mind candidates would be the Burris Landmark, Bushnell sentry Celestron 65, Sightron si, Hawke etc. The idea would be aimed at guys like me that mainly want a handy range glass for 100 to maybe 300yd use in viewing targets and saving tromping up and down the range to check targets. The info to have would be comments on eye relief, ease of focus, perceived durability, resolution at 100,200,300 etc etc.
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I'd like to see the Yukon thrown in as well, cap the price at 200 and give us working folks some good data to use to make a purchase. Excellent suggestion Powderburn. Thunbs Up
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First: It would be nice to know what you deem inexpensive.
Second:  I'd like to point out what a monumental PITA it will be to:
1-  Get samples from all needed scopes.  Whoever does this review may well have to buy some of them and hope the review can get done inside the 30 day return for refund policy.
2-  Find time to do the review.
3-  Find time to write it all up in an intelligent format
4-  Find time to keep up with whatever questions the review generates
5-  Find time to get everything boxed up and shipped
6-  Find the willingness to pay for some shipping
7-  Hope against hope there is some way to get paid for all of this. Big Smile
 
If you can talk Chris into sending me the stuff, I'll post the review.  Otherwise for lower rate stuff, I'm not real interested.  I will however, point out that the $279.00 Zen Ray Ridgefield 15=45x65 is as cheap as I'd go.  It is certainly able to do what the OP proposed


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Was kinda hoping that it might have already been done in a magazine or online article somewhere. I agree it would be a chore, and as my next spotter will be my first, I'm not the guy to do it. My local range does extend out to 600 yards, but I really don't shoot that far, and usually just walk down and view my targets at 200 yards after shooting. I'm getting lazy and figured it's about time to get a spotter. That Zen Ray would be at the ceiling of what I'm willing to spend to save some effort on foot. 
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Neibilly is pretty spot on with the $ range and what I was wishing for. I agree it would be a job but since this is sort of an open discussion I thought why not throw it out there.
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If you were to peruse some of the older threads on this very forum you would find some of the very information you are requesting.  True, it is not all compiled into one single post but, it's mostly all there.  I have personally written comparison reviews on a number of different scopes in your price range and I have read some very well-written reviews by some of the other regular posters as well.  Now, I admittedly, don't review scopes in terms of "resolving x caliber bullets at y distance," but that's because I'm not really a target shooter. 
 
The information is all there.  You just have to do some searching to tease it out.
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Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

I'd like to see the Yukon thrown in as well, cap the price at 200 and give us working folks some good data to use to make a purchase. Excellent suggestion Powderburn. Thunbs Up


I have a yukon 20-50X50 FLP-style spotter my mom bought me as a birthday gift, because she knows I love optics.

It sucks. Period.

I can almost see a dim, blurry image when I touch my bare eyeball to the eyepiece lens surface.
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LOL K, scratch Yukon off the list. Big Smile  I ordered a Burris off the sample list this evening. I'm hoping it's decent, not getting my hopes up too high, but am hoping I'm happier than you are with the Yukon. 


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You're welcome.  If I can save one person from permanent eye damage ...

Which Burris?  I have the little variable 50mm, and like it a lot.
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This one, hope it's not a stinker. I'd hate to use it in the cold and get my eyeball stuck to it. Big Smile


http://www.samplelist.com/Burris-12-24x50-Landmark-Compact-Spotter-DEMO-B-P2143.aspx

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Neilbilly let us know how that turns out for you.
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Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

This one, hope it's not a stinker. I'd hate to use it in the cold and get my eyeball stuck to it. Big Smile


http://www.samplelist.com/Burris-12-24x50-Landmark-Compact-Spotter-DEMO-B-P2143.aspx



I think you are going to surprised how much quality they stuffed in that little spotter.  That is the one I have.
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Yippee  Thanks Matt. As stated earlier, this one and one more will be 2 for me. Never thought I might need one till I started shooting targets more than critters.
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

I'd like to see the Yukon thrown in as well, cap the price at 200 and give us working folks some good data to use to make a purchase. Excellent suggestion Powderburn. Thunbs Up


I have a yukon 20-50X50 FLP-style spotter my mom bought me as a birthday gift, because she knows I love optics.

It sucks. Period.

I can almost see a dim, blurry image when I touch my bare eyeball to the eyepiece lens surface.
+1 on the Yukon. Those are OMG horrible optics! Stay far away.
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I ordered a Konus 20X60X80 from XXXXXX for $209 plus $12 shipping.  Based my choice on a hundred reviews from various sites and almost everyone gave it five stars. It's supposed to be very superior optics for the price.
I want to be able to resolve 22 holes in the black at 100+ yards.
I'll let you know how it works out when I get it next week.


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I have a Barska Benchmark 25-125x88 mm and for checking targets works very well at 200.. IF you were to get a different tripod for it I think it would be much better especially if your range doesnt have sturdy benchs... I paid $100 for it new and for that price you cant beat it to my knowledge... High power does tend to get a bit sketchy (very burry if you dont have your focus set perfect).. Downside to these is the magnification ring is so stiff that with their cheaper tripod you get with it you will most likely loose your target image in adjustment if your not being very careful... The rubber armouring is nice for odd accidents seems to be enough to take a decent impact... The hard case is cheap but effective and looks decent comes with a soft case for hunting... The handle accesory seems worthless at any magnification over 25.. All in all good enough glass for target shooting at least up to 200 (all the bigger the dinky range here is) Protection on it good accesories are cheaply done but work...
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One of the problems with inexpensive spotters is that they have the most sample-to-sample variation in the sporting optics world (or at  least that has been my experience).

I simply do not have the time to really do a proper test that would involve multiple units of multiple scopes.

If you want a small spotter to carry with you there is a rather inexpensive 15-30x50 Minox that is surprisingly decent (and I have seen a couple of samples).

As far as $200 and under spotters go.  I am not aware of anything remotely decent in that price range unless you can go look through a bunch of samples and find a particular "cherry" piece.

ILya
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Think you just said all that needs to really be said ILya...
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I've only owned two spotting scopes but I've looked through a few. The conclusion I have come to is that spotting scopes that are affordable really are not good enough quality to do what I want them to do.
The one I have that I use now is this but its really marginal about the only thing I can say good about it is it comes in a nice case which is very handy and its OK at 100 yds 200 is really pushing it past that you better walk up to the target.
Burris 20-60x80 Landmark Spotter Burris 20-60x80 Landmark Spotter
Stock # - 300119
  • Long Eye Relief
  • Waterproof
  • Fog Resistant
  • Hard Case & Tripod w/ Purchase
$244.95 


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One of my friends has this one and I liked it a lot better so if you can spend a little more this is the one I would recommend.
Konus 20-60x100 Konuspot Spotting Scope Konus 20-60x100 Konuspot Spotting Scope
Stock # - KON7122
  • Green
  • Angled
  • Comes with Camera Adapter and Carrying Case
$319.95 


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One can often find decent used optics at considerable savings.
I have an old Bausch & Lomb that is far better than a lot of modern spotting scopes in the lower price ranges.  I can see the rings of Saturn with it and a few weeks ago was examining the inner parts of flowers in a neighbor's tree.
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I've been happy with this inexpensive spotting scope.
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-15-45x60-Spacemaster-Spotting-Scope-P675.aspx
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The Burris I got off the sample list is decent. It takes a lot of fiddling around with the fine focus to see .223 holes at 100 yards on a white target. "which I can do at 9 power with several of my rifle scopes"

 It beats walkin' "when I'm at the range without a hunting rifle and scope combo" but not by enough to really be happy with it. I'll get a nice one at some point, but have too many projects needing $$ thrown at them to buy one now. "daughter's truck has a leaking rear main seal, yippie"

Granted I've only used it 2 times at the range and some of the problem might be operator error/inexperience.
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Originally posted by neilbilly neilbilly wrote:

The Burris I got off the sample list is decent. It takes a lot of fiddling around with the fine focus to see .223 holes at 100 yards on a white target. "which I can do at 9 power with several of my rifle scopes"

 It beats walkin' "when I'm at the range without a hunting rifle and scope combo" but not by enough to really be happy with it. I'll get a nice one at some point, but have too many projects needing $$ thrown at them to buy one now. "daughter's truck has a leaking rear main seal, yippie"

Granted I've only used it 2 times at the range and some of the problem might be operator error/inexperience.


Boy I am sorry to hear you are having trouble with that scope's performance.  I just used mine at the range last week and easily resolved 7mm holes at 200 yards.  ILya's comments about unit variation at these price points comes to mind.
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I agree Matt, I think the reason mine was on the sample list is that it wasn't quite right out of the box. Again, it could well be the guy trying to use it isn't a pro. Big Smile This being my first spotter, I'm inclined to believe more than a little fault is mine. I'll play with it more and might get to liking it better. 
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