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    Posted: April/12/2009 at 21:47
I have put a down payment of $50 on a 243 target rifle (Savage Model 12 VLP), and am having 2nd thoughts on the caliber. I am using this strictly for "taget" shooting, and I am wondering if I should have gotten the 223 instead. Should I cancel the 243 and get the 223 ??? Please tell me what you think. I am new to rifle shooting besides the 22lr ruger I have.
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I would go 223 all the way.
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If only for targets and maybe a coyote or two ....223 !

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Can you describe "target" shooting?  What distances?  what kind of targets?  Are we talking plinking targets?  For plinking type shooting, I'd agree with the .223! 
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Can you describe "target" shooting?  What distances?  what kind of targets?  Are we talking plinking targets?  For plinking type shooting, I'd agree with the .223! 

Mainly, 100-200 yards, light competion. I don't even know what kind of targets, but the ones issued for competition at the club I belong to. I am just a beginner, but willing to buy the "right" rifle and pay a fair price for it.
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The rifle will cost the same regardless of caliber unless you go with a magnum, at those distances a 243 is not needed and the ammo is more $$ should you choose to shoot further the 243 would maybe be a better bet. I know some shoot the 223 out to 500/600 yrds but that is with heavy bullets nothing wrong there .

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go with .223.... much cheaper ammo and plenty enough for 200 yds!  And quite a bit less recoil, which should help you shoot it better!!
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

go with .223.... much cheaper ammo and plenty enough for 200 yds!  And quite a bit less recoil, which should help you shoot it better!!
 
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Originally posted by maori maori wrote:

Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Can you describe "target" shooting?  What distances?  what kind of targets?  Are we talking plinking targets?  For plinking type shooting, I'd agree with the .223! 

Mainly, 100-200 yards, light competion. I don't even know what kind of targets, but the ones issued for competition at the club I belong to. I am just a beginner, but willing to buy the "right" rifle and pay a fair price for it.
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I'm thinking the best choice would be a .308 in a Savage 10FP or one of the Remmington PSS  rifles.   .

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the 22-250 is better than 223 plus it's cheaper with the 223 being a in demand for the military.  but that's just me.   
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Come back with the club rules and you will get a better answer.  BTW there is nothing wrong with the .243 for most stuff.  The .223 is in such demand that the old cheaper rule is being suspended by market forces.
 
Most target games favor the .224s bullet or .308 bullets because of economies of scale and development.  I'm just waiting to see what else gets mentioned. Get Your Popcorn Ready
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if it were me i would stick with the .243 its a fine target caliber too. the problem with the .22-250 is that it can be hard on barrels.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

if it were me i would stick with the .243 its a fine target caliber too. the problem with the .22-250 is that it can be hard on barrels.
 
I agree completely.  The .243 is an excellent cartridge and does double duty as a great varmint round with proper bullet selection.
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AHHH hell go with the 204 ruger. the 22-250 is hard a on barrels that's why u go with a bull or something a long that lines. he did say he was looking @ 12 VLP anyways not trying to pick a fight. just giving  my a opinion 
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the .204 would be an even worse choice really, i love my 22-250 but you gotta admit that the heavier 6mm bullet will perform better in windy conditions. 
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Originally posted by maori maori wrote:

Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Can you describe "target" shooting?  What distances?  what kind of targets?  Are we talking plinking targets?  For plinking type shooting, I'd agree with the .223! 

Mainly, 100-200 yards, light competion. I don't even know what kind of targets, but the ones issued for competition at the club I belong to. I am just a beginner, but willing to buy the "right" rifle and pay a fair price for it.
Thanks, M
 
Why are you guys telling him to get something for 600 yds out to 1000yds..... someone even recommended a "custom"?  He said Mainly 100-200 yards!!!!  Loco  He's been mostly shooting 22LR!  I don't care what he ends up getting or if he think's I'm nuts, but gee whiz, listen to what he's saying.  After a couple of years of shooting the .223 at 100-200 yds and he wants to step-up, then yea, go with something custom in a sexy caliber!
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Originally posted by maori maori wrote:

Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Can you describe "target" shooting?  What distances?  what kind of targets?  Are we talking plinking targets?  For plinking type shooting, I'd agree with the .223! 

Mainly, 100-200 yards, light competion. I don't even know what kind of targets, but the ones issued for competition at the club I belong to. I am just a beginner, but willing to buy the "right" rifle and pay a fair price for it.
Thanks, M
 
Why are you guys telling him to get something for 600 yds out to 1000yds..... someone even recommended a "custom"?  He said Mainly 100-200 yards!!!!  Loco  He's been mostly shooting 22LR!  I don't care what he ends up getting or if he think's I'm nuts, but gee whiz, listen to what he's saying.  After a couple of years of shooting the .223 at 100-200 yds and he wants to step-up, then yea, go with something custom in a sexy caliber!

yeah we are listening and i agree with the notion that right now .223 ammo is very hard to come by, which is why i mentioned the .243
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The OP originally stated "strictly" targets and unless I missed something he also stated a range of 100-200 yards. There is no logical reason for opting for something more powerful or with longer range capabilities than a 223. Less recoil, less muzzle report, cheaper ammo, endless availability and a good reputation for accuracy.
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

The OP originally stated "strictly" targets and unless I missed something he also stated a range of 100-200 yards. There is no logical reason for opting for something more powerful or with longer range capabilities than a 223. Less recoil, less muzzle report, cheaper ammo, endless availability and a good reputation for accuracy.

under most circumstances roy i would agree with you, but if you look online at all of the big boys ammo sections most of them are completely sold out of .223 ammo in every configuration, right now with the war and the whole push to buy more ammo isnt plentiful for the .223 or the .308. otherwise im in total agreement with you.
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