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longbow308
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Posted: October/12/2006 at 20:20 |
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where can i find a zero stop
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longbow308
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Mike McDonald
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you can't. they either come built into the scope or they don't.
You can cheat and stack "O" rings under your elevation knob though..........it works very well. |
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Stephanie
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Mike,
Do you mind explaining what he means when he says "where can i find a zero stop"
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cheaptrick
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Night Force and S&B are the only scopes I can think that offer the zero stop. Anybody else offer it??
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Trinidad
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cheaptrick
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The Zero Stop feature stops the shooter from going past zero when clicking elevation without looking or when they are in a low light enviorment and can't see the zero slash on their turret. Nice feature, usually reserved for LE or military shooters.
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6 beat me too it!! Your explanation is better than mine anyway!! |
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Mike McDonald
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Being the nit picky individual that I am, a zero stop does what you
guys said, but allows for the operator to dial past the zero setting of
the rifle to allow for imediate close quarters shots, usually about "0"
minus 5-7 moa.
The operator would dial to the zero stop then count back upward the predetermined moa to "0", which brings up the other point of scopes with zero stops needing solid tactile inputs. "clicking" sounds and mushy turrets won't work in this application. Again, the poor mans choice is to stack "O" rings under the elevation turret (works for windage too) which achieves the same effect. |
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I didn't know that. Is that more for CQB type scopes as well, Mike?? Like the S&B Short Dot on an M4 rifle??
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Mike McDonald
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No, the M4 is a 25 meter weapon that we're trying to extend the range
of. Still use the 250 meter battle zero to work from 0 to 300
meters with no ill effect. You work from bottom of hte chin to
the 3rd button on the blouse and hit where you need to faster
than spinning a dial.
The zero stop is on scopes used for intermediate ( 600 meter) to long (1200 meter) range and allows for fast reset to zero if the operator has to dial corrections past his normal fast action mil hold over/under, ( if he's working a 700 yard zero and needs to be real close it's either a guess he possibly can't afford or a sight setting correction that has to be fast) let's say things aren't going very well that day and he has to take a 25 meter shot fast, real fast. He can hold on the knees and maybe score or just reach up and palm turn the dial all the way down by sliding his hand across it and whammo, instant CQB zero. Right after that he knows where he's set, and just resets from that known value back to his working range zero and goes back to work...........................after the attendan undie maintenance of course |
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Trinidad
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Great info Mike, I always learn something new from your posts. Longbow 308 good to hear from you again. |
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longbow308
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thanks for the tips.
Stephanie, sorry i didn't explain it better but it looks like this fellers did a good job for me Mike, thanks, the o-ring stacking tip sounds like it will do just fine.I will try it when i get back to the beach. i plan on doing some fine tuneing to my rifle. been getting data on it out to 600 yards. for factory gun,it is shooting well. I will post the results when i get done.it likes 44 gr. of varget powder. rem primer 9 1/2 w/168 gr matchking again thanks. Cheaptrick, SVD666 WHATS UP FELLERS,and Stephanie thanks for replys and Stephanie also thanks, been working up some loads for my rifle, try to fined what she likes best. 44 gr.varget powder.rem. 9 1/2 primer with 168 gr. matchking, plaining on trying the 175 gr. also. well shoot straight, aim small,miss small |
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ChrisGarrett
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I can go 5x1/4" clicks past zero on my SB PM II, FWIW. It can be a pain when working up a bunch of different loads, say...if some 150s are shooting way high and you've zeroed it for something heavier, but once the pet load is found, it's useful, IMO.
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www.technika.nu
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Zeiss have those turrets as a standard feature for all their scopes. They can either be bought engraved out to 300 meters or not engraved at all so everybody can do it themself after their own bullet path.
Here is an old Diavari z 3-12x56 that have got those turrets mounted afterwards. But that can easaly be done to all their new scopes as well. Regards Technika |
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Hello LB.308!!
Nice Stick Technika!! Man, how much clearence do you have underneath that objective housing?? Looks CLOSE! |
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Less than a mm. But that gun does today have a ZF6-24X72 and the clearance is even closer. I was actually forces to take a little metal of the barrel or choose 5mm higher rings.
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