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I have a pair of Steiner 8 x 42 Peregrines, but I need a small pair of binoculars for sightseeing. I was in NYC last weekend wishing I had a pair in my shoulder bag. What do you recommend.... say.... between $200.00-$400.00?
 
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Originally posted by Tooie Tooie wrote:

I have a pair of Steiner 8 x 42 Peregrines, but I need a small pair of binoculars for sightseeing. I was in NYC last weekend wishing I had a pair in my shoulder bag. What do you recommend.... say.... between $200.00-$400.00?
 
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Thanks for the advice. What would I be giving up if I went with a Steiner 8.5 x 26 Wildlife...at 10 oz? 
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Originally posted by Tooie Tooie wrote:

Thanks for the advice. What would I be giving up if I went with a Steiner 8.5 x 26 Wildlife...at 10 oz? 
 
Personally, I never owned, used, or looked through a Steiner 8.5x26, but here is my opinion for what it is worth.
 
An extremely light weight binocular of 8.5x, at 9.7ounces, will give you the shakes when hand held.
 
I tried the Leupold Katmai 8x32mm at 18.9 ounces and I could not keep it as steady as I would have liked.
 
Also, the very small 3mm exit pupil of the Steiner 8.5x26 makes it more difficult to center on your eye pupils, this will potentially give you some black out issues.
 
The FOV is much wider in the Katmai 6x32 making the views more panoramic for sightseeing, & the Katmai has a very quick focuser which is excellent for vacationing in the city, as you quickly change from one scene to another on the tour bus. Short Bus


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Well, that explanation makes good sense to me.....thank you very much.  
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If I go to a 20 oz....6 power, I was just wondering what you think about the Vortex Viper? Is it worth the extra $150.00 over the Katmai?  Thank you 
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Originally posted by scopepart scopepart wrote:

here!hava good quality telescope on it http://www.scopepart.com
Must be an alien/Chinese invasion of sorts. I thought the full moon was over. Laser Zap

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Originally posted by Bird Watcher Bird Watcher wrote:

Originally posted by Tooie Tooie wrote:

Thanks for the advice. What would I be giving up if I went with a Steiner 8.5 x 26 Wildlife...at 10 oz? 
 
Personally, I never owned, used, or looked through a Steiner 8.5x26, but here is my opinion for what it is worth.
 
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I too am looking for a pair of pocket binoculars for taking hiking under heavy canopy woods. I just went tonight to Gander Mountain and looked through a pair of Steiner 10 X 26 and can tell you I was fairly disapointed.  Seemed like very dim images in a fairly well lit store.  Nothing I would want under a heavy canopy.  I am wondering if the Zeiss, Swarovski, or Leica's 10 X 25 would be any better.
 
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I too am looking for a pair of pocket binoculars for taking hiking under heavy canopy woods. I just went tonight to Gander Mountain and looked through a pair of Steiner 10 X 26 and can tell you I was fairly disapointed.  Seemed like very dim images in a fairly well lit store.  Nothing I would want under a heavy canopy.  I am wondering if the Zeiss, Swarovski, or Leica's 10 X 25 would be any better.
 
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Exit pupil is the key here.
A 2.6mm exit pupil is not desirable for a heavy wooded area where there is alot of shade.
Also, you would be better off with a much lower magnification for the widest possible FOV since you will be viewing in tight quarters.
 
6x30 or 6x32 comes to mind, I would forget the "pocket binoculars" and instead settle for a lightweight binocular that you can comfortably hang around your neck. 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Bird Watcher Bird Watcher wrote:

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I too am looking for a pair of pocket binoculars for taking hiking under heavy canopy woods. I just went tonight to Gander Mountain and looked through a pair of Steiner 10 X 26 and can tell you I was fairly disapointed.  Seemed like very dim images in a fairly well lit store.  Nothing I would want under a heavy canopy.  I am wondering if the Zeiss, Swarovski, or Leica's 10 X 25 would be any better.
 
Bill 
Exit pupil is the key here.
A 2.6mm exit pupil is not desirable for a heavy wooded area where there is alot of shade.
Also, you would be better off with a much lower magnification for the widest possible FOV since you will be viewing in tight quarters.
 
6x30 or 6x32 comes to mind, I would forget the "pocket binoculars" and instead settle for a lightweight binocular that you can comfortably hang around your neck. 
 
 
I agree exit pupil is the key but I really have my heart set on something pocketable.  I was hiking yesterday and took my 8 X 30 Swarovski.  On a 1.5 hour hike I only looked through them twice for around 10 seconds each.   So I don't see the need for anything that size around my neck for the whole hike just to use for a few seconds.  On a dedicated viewing hike or excursion I can see taking the Swaro's, but not for incidental use.  Hence the pocket size. 
 
What about the Viper 8 x 28's?  They look pretty nice and should have a large enough exit pupil ?  XD glass, fully multicoated.   Anyone have any experiance with these.
 
Thanks Bird Watcher
 
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A thought here about pocket size binoculars is that unless you are dealing with the very best, ie. Swaro. Leica, Zeiss, Nikon, in the small 8x20 or 10x25 size you are going to find the others
will not offer a view that you may find to your liking.
The reason is simple is that it is very difficult to make these without the finest glass, coatings
and optics design.
 
Close to pocket size are the reverse porros, such as the Nikon Travellite, 8x25, and its view
can exceed some of the true pockets listed above.  I find the true pockets kind of nice to have
and play with, but you need a larger objective to enjoy the view. 
 
See if you can get to a larger store to sample the goods.  And then come back here to SWFA
to oder.
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Back again.
 
I see that on the Sample list, SWFA lists both a Leica 8x20, and a 10x25 Trinovid, within your
budget.  I had a 8x20 Trinovid for a time, and I thought it was very good. 
 
I hope someone else here can add to this.  I have not tried a 10x25, but am thinking they
are dimmer, and may be harder to hold without shake. 
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Originally posted by Hitthespot Hitthespot wrote:

 
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