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Hi all, 

I am new to the forum.  I just moved to a high rise on the water in San Francisco and I want to get some binoculars so I can get a better look at the boats in the bay.  I am looking at a couple of 10x25s from Zeiss and Leica as well as a 10x50 Rallye from Steiner.  Would any of these be a good choice or do I need something with more magnification?  My budget is up to $500 (less would be better though).

Thank you. 

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Originally posted by Faber Faber wrote:

 I just moved to a high rise on the water in San Francisco and I want to get some binoculars so I can get a better look at the boats in the bay.
I am looking at a couple of 10x25s from Zeiss and Leica as well as a 10x50 Rallye from Steiner.
Would any of these be a good choice or do I need something with more magnification?

What is the approx. distance? How many miles?

Porro prism binoculars are much more reasonably priced.

If it were me I'd start out with something like a Nikon Action Extreme 16x50.


If that's not enough magnification you can return it and move up to the Pentax 20x60 PCF WP II.


For higher magnifications such as 16x & 20x you will need a tripod adapter
& a tripod with pan head, tall enough for your height.


Stan



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IMHO you will need something more than a 10x25 for long distance viewing, think a 8 x42 or larger "if" you can use it...some people can't hold higher powers steady for long periods of time...you will need to test yourself to see if you get overly fatigued looking through a high power glass for a substantial period of time.
If you have to use a tripod to steady the binoculars then you might think about the Docter 15x60's, they are heavy but work very well.
If you can hold something more then 8x and need lighter weight, then look a quality 10x40+.
The SWFA Sample List has some good buys..always pick quality over quantity...that means that a very good quality glass of lessor power will allow you to see more than a crappy, optically compromised glass of greater power.
Buy the highest quality you can afford...the higher the magnification the better the quality has to be to remain effective.
Vortex and Zen Ray have decent roof binoculars in their HD lines for very reasonable prices.
Swarovski has a very good 10x porro binocular at a decent price.
Beyond that, you might look at the classic combo of a very high quality 8x32 and the Nikon 50mm scope.
You can use the 8x32's for quite a bit more things than a pair of high powered glasses, they are light and small, easy to have with you, the little Nikon scope is amazing, light, compact and excellent views.
Just some thoughts.
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I definitely don't want to deal with a tripod.

Gulf, isn't a 10x25 more powerful than an 8x42?  Would the 8x42 be better because it will be brighter?
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I think higher mag bins would serve you well, but anything over 10x will likely be hard to hand-hold, unless you go stabilized.
 
The Canon 12X36 stabilized binoculars would be a good fit, and can sometimes be found pretty near your max budget.
 
The best value is the porro/tripod combo Stan recommended above.
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Faber:
 
Are you going to be using these just from the high-rise, or when walking and traveling?
 
Some good choices have been mentioned, but the 16 or 20X need to be tripod mounted
and would be very good choice from a window.
A 10x25 is a very small pocket type, and only has an advantage in light weight,
otherwise they have lots of limitations.
 
I am recommending 2 different binoculars in your case, a long range one, and maybe
tripod mounted.  And then a high quality optic you can carry, and then that means
an 8x32 for a nice view when walking.  They are still light weight, but offer a great
view under many conditions.
 
 
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Originally posted by Faber Faber wrote:

I definitely don't want to deal with a tripod.

You could always use a monopod.

Take a look at these; several choices:


Does your apartment have a balcony railing that you can rest your elbows on?


Edited by Bird Watcher - November/26/2012 at 19:51
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Faber, you will need a larger objective to see further, the smaller objective limits the amount of light and makes objects further away harder to see, however a larger objective than 42/43 mm means a lot more weight and size so you are less likely to have the glasses with you.
With your budget, look at the various Vortex and Zen Ray HD glasses, you may find you are going to have to spend a bit more to get the quality you need.
I can't hold a 10x steady, you may be able to...see if you can borrow a pair of 10x42's and test your ability...don't be afraid to start with a pair of 8x to see if they work.
Don't be fooled into going to a higher power glass because the image looks bigger..if you can't hold it steady you will tire quickly and may get head aches..your money will be wasted because you won't use them very often.
The classic European glass is a 8x32/33 because it is fairly small and lightweight, you are more inclined to have it with you which means you will use it more...it works for almost everything, most birders have a pair and enjoy them...the alpha's (Leica, Nikon, Swarovski and Zeiss) sell more 8x32's than any other size.
For big porro's in your price range, take a look at the Swift glasses, their 8.5's are very good, the ED's are a big but very effective.
Again, quality beats quantity, a better quality glass of lower power my allow you to see more.
Art

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