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    Posted: June/21/2013 at 14:46
Do not have too much to play with, let's say $200 +/- $40.  The scope will be used either on a .308 Sako L579 or a .50 caliber Knight muzzleloader.  The reason I say either is because I currenly have a  Vortex Viper 2-7x on the .308 and between the Viper and my new scope, one will go on each gun.
 
The new scope will be either a 2-7(8)x or a 3-9.  I shoot mostly from stands, some rare shots could reach out to 200 yards, most would be under 75.  A lot of heavy brush shots, often with low light conditions.  I'm leaning towards the Vortex Diamondback, 2-7 or 3-9, but also considering the Burris Fullfield II of Redfield.  Curious if there is anything by Sightron, Nikon or any other brand in my price range worth looking at.
 
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  Nothing wrong with these Sightrons.  Plus there's a rebate.
 
 
 
 
  Definitely worth considering.
 
 


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300S&W, thanks.

Found these in my price range at SWFA:



Weaver 3-9x40 40/44 Shotgun/Muzzleloader Scope

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  I don't know if you've seen this or not.  ILya's profession is optics of all sorts.
 
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 
  I don't know if you've seen this or not.  ILya's profession is optics of all sorts.
 


Yeah, have read through it several times.  Basically leaning towards the Diamondback for that reason, but wanted to be comprehensive.  A great deal on a different brand might sway me.
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Bushnell 3-9x40 Elite Rifle Scope
The rainguard coating is of value while hunting.  To my eye the Bushnell Elite glass is better than most of the other glass in that price range.  When hunting low light dial down to 6x with a 42mm scope and the image will get brighter.  Your price range is getting close to the cost of the Super Sniper scopes they come  6x,  10x,  12x,  16x, & 20x
SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS6X42MQ
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  • Patented Mil-Quad Reticle
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  • OK for .50 cal
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 300S&W Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/23/2013 at 13:09
 
  Something that we should consider is that you mention "most would be under 75.  A lot of heavy brush shots, often with low light conditions."  So I've been thinking reticle choice. I use a Leupold with their heavy plex reticle which is easy to see against brush and in low light. According to ILya's article the Diamondback and Burris (both w/BDC reticles) offer a thicker reticle than some others.  Also there's a member here (Roy Finn) whose opinions are highly regarded.  He's big on the Bushnell Fire Fly reticle saying that it's thick enough that in most conditions the FireFly option isn't needed.  So even though that Elite scope that you list doesn't have the FireFly you'd still be getting a thick reticle. 
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Firefly reticle is a bit more, based on the fact that the reticle would have to be charged with a flashlight and is not a battery illuminated type I dont know if I would like it.   It is worth considering though.
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  I probably wouldn't consider the FireFly unless an Elite wasn't available without it. And then don't know if I'd use it or not.  Roy says that reticle is very black and bold. 
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The Elite is the outer range of my budget, but doable.  Rainguard would be nice.

Thanks again for the advice.
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I have the firefly on one of my Elite's, on a 1895 45-70, and that reticle sticks out like a sore thumb! I never need to use the glow feature in low light, but just playing around with it, it seems to work fairly well. with that said, I still love the Burris ffii, and the vortex diamondback. 
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I have two 4200 2.5-10x40 fireflys and they are really good scopes. Very bright in low light and the rainguard is a big plus. The reticle is very bold. I like it better than a german #4 because it isn't as pronounced, but it will hang a really long time after dark(without charging it). I have never "needed" to charge it but have been playing around with it way after dark and just a quick flash of a light will give it just a touch of illumination that would help you shoot in near pitch black conditions. But if you charge it fully it is so bright it just about makes your scope useless in low light...........I mean it glows like a Griswald christmas tree !!
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