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I recently moved to Southern Utah from Georgia and shoot a TC 308.  I'm looking to spend about $250 on a longer range scope. I would prefer a side focus and not to sure on the reticle. Any ideas out there, thanks. 
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 What power range are you looking for? A 3-9 is generally sufficient for most western hunting and you can find some good scopes in your price range. If you are looking for more power than that you will either need to increase your budget or go for something on the Sample List like the following.

http://www.samplelist.com/Nikon-45-14x40-Buckmaster-Rifle-Scope-DEMO-B-P3207.aspx
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SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS6X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
$299.95


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Most of what I am hearing from the locals and old timers is that the old 3 by 9 I brought with me just wont hack it. I guess I'm looking to shoot no more than 500 yards, while hunting, and like 42, 44 objective lens. I would be okay with a fixed variable or adjustable like a 6-18. What do you think?
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http://swfa.com/Redfield-4-12x40-Revolution-Rifle-Scope-P44473.aspx

I wouldn't go much higher than 14-16 on the upper end for a  big game scope.
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I have hunted and lived in Utah my whole life.  All I have ever hunted with are 3-9x and similar.  Never had a need for more.  I have hunted quite a bit with fixed 4x and got by just fine. 

For your budget, I would definitely stick with a 3-9x.  Getting a high mag scope at a cheap price will really lower the overall quality of the optic.  I would consider a Bushnell elite 3-9x.
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I could not agree more with the other posters. If you like your 3-9, just use it.

The idea that high magnification is necessary, or even preferable, for Western hunting is ridiculous.
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4200 or Elite is my vote in 3-9x 40.
 
You will be hard pressed to beat either for the money.
 
 
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If you can't hit it with 9x, you can't hit it with any weapon you can hold with your shoulder.
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Thanks for all the information, I will take all of the suggestions into consideration.  Careful 31 bertram, you don't know me from adam.Loco
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If it's too far for 9x, it's too far for anything you can hold with your shoulder.  Nothing wrong with a good 3x9 scope with good glass.  And several good ones in your price range.  If I was'nt scope poor I would have jumped on those 3x9  4200's on closeout.
 
I have a 3x9x40 Burris FF II on my 257 wby and it goes together like peas and carrots.  Picked up another one in gloss on a closeout here at SWFA this year for $119.95.  This is my third scope I have bought from these folks and they have treated me well.  Also lots of knowlegable and courteous folks on this Forum, unlike some forums I have seen.  Good luck and good hunting.Smile 
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I am not disagreeing with others here. I have used 3x9 alot for western highplains/mountain hunting and 3x9's worked just fine but, I like my 14 power VX-3 much more. Do not think I will go back to a 3x9 after using a 14.  
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Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

I am not disagreeing with others here. I have used 3x9 alot for western highplains/mountain hunting and 3x9's worked just fine but, I like my 14 power VX-3 much more. Do not think I will go back to a 3x9 after using a 14.  
 
I really like the 3-12 and 4-14 magnification ranges for western hunting, but the 6-20 stuff is too much, IMO.  Too little field of view on the low end, and the form factor is getting pretty big on those scopes.
 
The higher end does help when doing load development and sighting in.
 
The new high-ratio scopes seem like they will be really usefull, if they are reasonably compact.
 
The VX-3 4.5-14 scopes have a nice magnification range in a nice package.
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Consider a scope you can dial in correction with tactical knobs.
Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Competition Hunter Riflescope Target Dot Leupold 6x42 FX-3 Competition Hunter Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66825
$469.95
Leupold 12x40 FX-3 Riflescope Long Range Duplex Leupold 12x40 FX-3 Riflescope
Stock # - LEU66835
$529.95 
Leupold 8x40 FX-II Riflescope Leupold 8x40 FX-II Riflescope
Stock # - LEU000840
$379.95 
SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SS10X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
$299.95 
SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope SWFA SS 6x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS6X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
$299.95 
SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical 30mm Riflescope
Stock # - SS39X42MQ
  • Matte
  • Patented First Focal Plane Mil-Quad Reticle
  • 30mm
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 0.1 MRAD
$599.95 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: December/29/2011 at 21:23
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Originally posted by rustic rustic wrote:

I am not disagreeing with others here. I have used 3x9 alot for western highplains/mountain hunting and 3x9's worked just fine but, I like my 14 power VX-3 much more. Do not think I will go back to a 3x9 after using a 14.  
I agree to a point. But in my humble opinion, high mag, and cheap scopes just make for a headache. But a reasonably priced scope or even a cheap scope that is not jammed full of features allows the manufacture to make a scope that is dependable and have decent glass. Your VX3 cost between $500 and $900, depending on what model you got... That is a long way from the $250 the OP listed as his budget. Does more mag make things easier? Sure, as long as the scope has the resolution to support the more X's. Most common 3-9's in the $150-$200 dollar range have at least serviceable center of field view. I have a Burris FFL-II 3-9x40 that was mounted on my rifle to take my elk here in AZ and my buffalo in Colorado. It is a good scope, it holds zero, but after awhile the haze on the outer rim drove me crazy...
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The older I get the higher power I want I guess. I have a friend that has a vortex viper I believe it is 6X20??. To me it seems like it has a bit too much tunnel vision to it.
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31 Bertram, thank-you for the clarification. I will work on getting the best glass I can, cause I am poor as well. 
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A few years back when I first got my 257 wby. I was wanting to get the most out of that rifle that I could.  I have several scopes including a 4x12x40 AO which I considered but I just liked my old 3x9x40 standard plex.  So I posted asking if I should go with a higher mag and John Barsness aka Muledeer answered with the very same thing I replied to you about the "9x and shoulder thing".   I have and have used the higher mag scopes and I've came back full circle.  Is a higher mag scope worse?  Of course not.  And if you have more confidence in it and know your weapon well, it certainly won't hurt.  I feel that as the magnification goes up you will need the quality of the glass to go up as well and thus the $$$.
Another thing you will need to look at once you start getting over 9 or 10x is AO.  I'm just not a big fan of them either.  Just something else for me to tinker with, and I'm a little slow uncoordinated, he he 
I went with the advice of Muledeer and never looked back.  I feel he steered me in the right direction.  Simplicity works for me.
A lower magnification higher quality glass will almost always trump a lower quality higher magnification.  
Your milage may vary.  Hope I am not fanning the fames here. 
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