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Im in the proccess of bulding a M1A with a JAE stock and im looking for a new optic. What optic would you recomend for around $800? The range I will be shooting is around 700-800 yards. I was looking at the Bushnell Tactical Elite 4200 6-24x50mm, or possibly a Weaver 4-20x50 Tactical 30mm.
 
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Honestly, my first recommendation would probably be the Variable Super Sniper.  It is a lower magnification scope, but for me it is sufficient pretty far out:

If you do insist on higher magnification, make sure the scope has enough adjustment range for your needs.  With that in mind, I would suggest Bushnell Elite 6500 2.5-16x42 with exposed knobs.

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Really, the sky is the limit with that price range. I too suggest Bushnell 6500 Elite 2.5-16x42 with mildot. That Weaver Tactical is also sweet. Couple of Zeiss models are also within your price range.

That M1A can be a pain in the butt once it is scoped. A solid and high quality three-point mounting approach is a must. Scoping is the weakest point of this platform, in my opinion. There is a reason Navy Seals heaviliy modify their M1As. I keep mine unscoped.
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All good choices,might also look at Minox Z5 4-20x50.

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Originally posted by VYD VYD wrote:

Really, the sky is the limit with that price range. I too suggest Bushnell 6500 Elite 2.5-16x42 with mildot. That Weaver Tactical is also sweet. Couple of Zeiss models are also within your price range.

That M1A can be a pain in the butt once it is scoped. A solid and high quality three-point mounting approach is a must. Scoping is the weakest point of this platform, in my opinion. There is a reason Navy Seals heaviliy modify their M1As. I keep mine unscoped.
Thats why im ordering this Leatherwood m1a mount, it seem high quality...
 
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There are two mount systems that seem to work better than the rest for M1a one is Smith Enterprises the other is  SADLAC.  I use the Smith Enterprises model for trijicon ACOG which I like.  The scope I would put on it is SWFA SS 10x42 HD Tactical Riflescope

Stock # - SS10X42HD    $799.95 
A fixed power scope is a good choice for the M1a because while most scopes do OK with recoil to the rear the fact that semi auto rifles have an immediate forward bolt stroke subjects the scopes to additional forces many can not handle. The 10x HD is a tought scope designed for the military and would be my pick unless you are wanting a set up for 400 yds and closer in which case the ACOG is hard to beat.
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At those ranges, you really don't need anything higher than 10x, especially for man-sized targets.  Unless you are wanting to shoot tiny targets at those ranges, I think the 10x or less give you so much of a better view, field of view, clarity, etc.
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I have the bassett machine mount and the vortex viper 6.5-20X44 and love this setup. No issues and the mount is rock solid. 
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Originally posted by kmcintosh78 kmcintosh78 wrote:

I have the bassett machine mount and the vortex viper 6.5-20X44 and love this setup. No issues and the mount is rock solid. 
 
I've heard the same about the Basset before. Not many "good" M1A mounts around.
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I would highly recommend the 3-9 Super Sniper. I have one on my M1a NM and a round count pushing 1000. I used the ARMS mounts and ARMS med rings with no problems. I moved the SS to a AR15A4 configuration and like it enough to replace my ACOG. Switching the SS back and forth is a hassle because of the mounts so I just ordered another SS 3-9. I shoot steel out to 800 yards with no problems seeing the target or with parallax. Unless you are shooting paper targets for small groups at long range your wasting money to spend more, IMO.
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+1 on what Jedi said ... I have a SS FFP 3-9 on mine and it works great.  Have the same optic on my 20 inch 308 hunting rifle.  Farthest I have used it on with the M1A is 600 yards currently.

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Try a Bassett machine mount for M1A. 1/2 the price of a Sadlak or Smith. Really simple. Holds zero everytime
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Purchased a low profile, picatinny Bassett machine scope mount. Mated to med. Weaver tactical rings and an SWFA SS 6x42 Mil-dot scope. This is the 2nd 6x42 as the 1st was sent back to SWFA with slight Spherical Aberration &  barrel distortion. I know. I'm picky. The scope was installed on a stock SA. M1A. As bore siting with a flash hider is problematic, I went to the 25 yard range to dial it in on paper. Tork specs for the rings were a guess. Both turrets on the scope were set at zero.
Well blow me down! The 1st 6 shots were directly in the bull and could be covered by a nickle ! Took the rifle to 200 yards. After 10 dial-in shots, was placing 10 shots in a 4" circle consistently. After 120 rounds,the Bassett mount never shot loose and was consistent throughout the session.. A mystery why anyone would pay 2 to 3 times for a mount that's this stable and may be installed or removed instantly.The new 6x42 SS is a winner and should be fine to a max of 500 yards I think.
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First problem with M1a is the mount, not the scope, good suggestions above, other scopes mentioned aren't in the same playing field as the SS 3x9x.
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