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My new .270 X-bolt arrived at Bass Pro yesterday so I took a tour of the metroplex today.  First I drove down to SFWA's shop to pick up some premium glass then lead-footed it over to Bass Pro to pick up the X-bolt.

I finally decided to go with the Swarovski AV 3-10x42 from Samplelist.  I haven't had a chance to do any testing but I got it mounted and it looks sweet.  I used Leupold medium mounts.  Color and texture wise they're not a perfect match but are very close.

To bad deer season is 10 months away!  Oh well, plenty of time to get her sighted in.

Thanks for everyone's input and help!

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           Super     did you get to meet any of the good people at SWFA?

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Yes!  I'm afraid I don't remember his name but they guy who helped me was great.  I called ahead to let them know what I was interested in and they had them waiting for me to see at the front.  I compared the samplelist scope with muzzleloader reticle to a new one with 4A reticle.  The samplelist scope looked like brand new and I actually like the muzzleloader reticle... kinda like a TDS redicle.
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Glad to hear you are happy. Some day I would like to check the place out for myself.
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Apparently the magic happens in the back.  It's not really full blown retail display type store.  The customer area is pretty small.  If you hadn't seen their website you'd have no idea they have so much to offer.  They do have an EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE  whitetail mount in the lobby.  I'd recommend calling first to let them know what you want to see.
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Great looking setup! Thunbs Up
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Sweet, love the set up!! Excellent
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Those Leupold mounts look cleaner than Browning's integral mounts which I think are made by Talley.  Did SWFA have them in stock?
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Yes, they had them in stock in single and dual dovetail.  Interestingly there's no windage adjustment on the mounts.  On my A-bolt I had to use them last year.  When checking the sighting I found myself at the end of the scope's windage adjustment.
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Originally posted by Heavishot Heavishot wrote:

Yes, they had them in stock in single and dual dovetail.  Interestingly there's no windage adjustment on the mounts.  On my A-bolt I had to use them last year.  When checking the sighting I found myself at the end of the scope's windage adjustment.


The Leupold dual dovetail mounts don't come with windage adjustments, the Leupold standard mounts do.
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Okay thanks.  I just checked the Leupold Mount Chart on SWFA and don't see the X-Bolt listed.  I tried downloading the pdf on Leupold's website and it wouldn't load. 

You're saying they had single and dual dovetail bases so I guess they are 'standard mounts'?  I'm guessing yours is a dual dovetail set-up?  If it was a single wouldn't you have to have a base/ring with a windage adjustment?  I don't understand.
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The guy at SWFA recommended the dual dovetail mounts.  I didn't realize the difference.  Maybe he said standard and dual dovetail mounts were available not single and double.
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The dual dovetails are incredibly solid Leupold mounts.  Unfortunately you never know if you're going to have a windage adjustment problem until the scope is mounted.  Maybe lapping the rings can take care of some of it?  Unless someone knows a different way to test this it's the chance you take.  But it is a clean look.  I'm glad SWFA had them in stock.  I'm going to give them a call next week.

If you get an opportunity can you post a picture directly from the side with no angle?  I'd like to see the clearances.  Thanks in advance.


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Originally posted by timber timber wrote:

The dual dovetails are incredibly solid Leupold mounts.  Unfortunately you never know if you're going to have a windage adjustment problem until the scope is mounted.  Maybe lapping the rings can take care of some of it?  Unless someone knows a different way to test this it's the chance you take.  But it is a clean look.  I'm glad SWFA had them in stock.  I'm going to give them a call next week.

If you get an opportunity can you post a picture directly from the side with no angle?  I'd like to see the clearances.  Thanks in advance.


Having a scope with a 30mm tube helps (increased windage adjustment) when using Dual Dovestails and your right, they are solid, clean too. Thunbs Up

Heavishot, you did good!!




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I'm trusting that modern manufacturing methods and Browning's 8 screw mounting setup combined with Swarovski quality will keep me out of trouble. Bucky

here's a better side view


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Originally posted by mike650 mike650 wrote:

Originally posted by timber timber wrote:

The dual dovetails are incredibly solid Leupold mounts.  Unfortunately you never know if you're going to have a windage adjustment problem until the scope is mounted.  Maybe lapping the rings can take care of some of it?  Unless someone knows a different way to test this it's the chance you take.  But it is a clean look.  I'm glad SWFA had them in stock.  I'm going to give them a call next week.

If you get an opportunity can you post a picture directly from the side with no angle?  I'd like to see the clearances.  Thanks in advance.


Having a scope with a 30mm tube helps (increased windage adjustment) when using Dual Dovestails and your right, they are solid, clean too. Thunbs Up

Heavishot, you did good!!




Excellent point.  Also just check the specs of the scope.  They vary from scope to scope.  The technical guys on this forum can explain why it's best to avoid having to turn windage to the extremes.  But I gotta say it's never caused me accuracy problems. 

I've been thinking about an Stainless Stalker X-Bolt in 25-06.  I'm looking forward to a range report!
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Excellent thanks!  It looks like maybe a longer scope might allow the objective to clear the barrel with low rings.  It also looks like you've got plenty of room for the eyepiece to be lower.  But as I remember it the X-Bolt has a fairly high comb so mediums might be the lowest you'd want to go no matter what?

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I actually wouldn't mind it being a touch lower but SWFA checked for me and said low rings probably wouldn't work for this setup.
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I checked a Leupold catalogue.  Dual Dovetail and Standard Rings are 0.65" in height for lows and 0.77" in height for mediums, both 1" and 30mm.  The low therefore is only 0.12" lower, just a hair more than 1/10 of one inch.  It's hard to tell for sure from the picture but it would have been very close fitting, if not touching.

The good thing about a higher scope mount is it's (slightly) easier to get your fingers in the ejection port if you ever get a jamb.  But I'm not so sure 0.12" would make much difference.   After you shoot it some you'll probably get used to it and forget about it.  It looks great as it is.

When I handled one at Bass Pro I did notice the relatively short heel to toe measurement.  Are you mounting the recoil pad high on your shoulder?  I had to conscientiously think about it or the buttstock seemed to mount a little low on my shoulder.  That would probably put a scope a little low to my eye.  It's something I'd get used to though.


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I had a 40mm scope on my A-bolt instead of a 42mm and this seemed like I couldn't nestle into the stock quite as much as I'm used to.  Could be my imagination. I'm confident after I shoot it twice I'll forget all about it.
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Originally posted by Heavishot Heavishot wrote:

I had a 40mm scope on my A-bolt instead of a 42mm and this seemed like I couldn't nestle into the stock quite as much as I'm used to.  Could be my imagination. I'm confident after I shoot it twice I'll forget all about it.


I know exactly what you're talking about.  I owned a 223 Stainless Stalker A-Bolt with a 50 mm scope.  I got away with medium rings on my Sako 85 with a 50mm scope but I had to use highs with the A-Bolt.  It just happened that the dovetail on the receiver of the Sako sits fairly high to begin with versus the Browning's lower profile receiver.  But it was very close.  (See the picture).  It took some trail and error with different brands of bases and rings to get the scope as low as possible.

It could be that the larger 42mm vs. the 40mm could be the difference?  I know it's not that big of a deal but you could measure the distance between the objective bell and the barrel to see if it could sit 0.12" lower.  It looks close.  Maybe even pushing the scope towards the muzzle could get you a couple extra .01".  Leupold told me that if you can get a paper dollar bill between the objective and the barrel it'd be okay.

Here's a picture of my Sako with a 50mm scope and medium Leupold QR Rings:


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I did some measurements and the minimum clearance is approximately 1/8"(.1875") between the objective bell and the barrel so the scope should fit with Leupold low rings leaving .0417".  However, the Swaro slip-on cover would no longer fit.  Butler creek covers are 1/16"(.0625) thick so they wouldn't fit either.  Unless.... You used the sunshade with the Butler Creek Caps. (The barrel taper increase clearance the further out you go.)


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Nice setup Heavi. I went with the Talley's for my mounts. Time to go shooting.
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