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Brewdaddy View Drop Down
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It's opening week of deer season and I just missed a real nice 9 pointer. Back at camp, my buddy sez to me," you need to get rid of that crappy scope and get something better" I was a little offended, after all, It was my crappy scope and I paid $140 for it! I knew nothing about Optics and felt he new little more. So I blew it off and planned to resight it in after I got home. The next morning he let me borrow his spare 270 with a Nikon Buckmaster on it. I shot a 130 class, 11 pointer at 30 yrds. Wall hanger, but needless to say, at 30 yrds, I wasn't going to give any credit to his gun and scope.  


Back in Houston I went to the range and re-sighted my gun in. 100yds no paper. 50yrds no paper. 25 yds no paper. I finnaly ask a fellow to watch and see where I was missing. He said I was high, so I regrouped and readjusted my way back to 100yrds. At 100 yards my groups were inconsistant, but I blamed the poor groups on the new Winchester Silver Balistic tips that I was shooting for the first time. Ya see, they just happen to be the same bullets I used to kill my 11 pointer opening week, and to be honest, they just looked really cool! Warewolf slayers, I call them!


Now I'm back in my stand and here come five doe. I hadn't taken a doe yet and wanted two. I thought, lets see if I can take two out of these five. At fifty yards the first doe drops with a perfect head on neck shot. The remaing doe sprint away and stop at stare at @ 80. I slowy aim for a second neck shot and Bang!  Missed.


The next evening another 100yd doe shot. Bang, missed again. Now I'm starting to wonder. Is it me or the scope. Let me add that all of these shots are siiting in an elevated deluxe blind with almost bench rest comfort.


It's the last morning and  another  really nice buck walks out at 225yds. I have all day to aim and then,..missed again.


So now I'm thinking maybe my buddy is right. Maybe it's not me but the optics. I start thinking back over the past three years using this scope and started noticing a trend.


Three seasons ago. I shot a doe the first week. A few weeks later missed a buck at 140yds. No idea why? actually I was so embarassed I never told the guys back at camp. The last week of season I have 150 class, 12 pointer run out at pose for me at @ 275 yds.  Again missed. This was a buck of lifetime for me and I swore that day I'd practice shooting more and understand my bullet balistics. The next year I did just that I sighted the gun in and memorised the balistics. First shot that next season 230yd neck shot on a doe. I'm pleased. The next day 202 yard shot on a nice buck, but I spined him. Strange thing was that I had a good shot and was shooting low into the vitals?  Last week of that season another doe at 200 yards missed.


Now looking back I'm starting to wonder how much of a role my optics were playing. Was my scope moving after each shot. I'm not sure, but one thing I'm betting on, I hope my buddy was right. Simmons scope may be crap. I can now only hope my education here, on this forum will pay off and a Zeiss Conquest which will cost more then my gun did, will not let me down. Otherwise I'll be out of excuses.




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This might or mightnot be your scope. Generally when someone is at the range they shoot frequent enough that their barrel get hot by the time their optics are zeroed. Then when season opens they go out into the woods with a perfectly cool barrel, and if the stock/action/barrel are not bedded right the gun sill shoot differently sometimes as much as 12 " at 100 yds. Check your gun first before going and investing a pention in a scope to replace what might be a perfectly fine scope. I run into this a lot in my shop and my customers continusly place the blame on their ammo or their optics,  when in fact after the fat lady sings it was neither.  
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/22/2005 at 09:29
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Check all your other items first before buying another scope.. Did you use the same ammo when you first sighted in your gun? Did you let the barrel cool between groups?

Is the barrel overly copper fouled? Are the mount / rings screws tight? Are you practicing at 200 yd.s plus ( know your bullet drop ) ? Eliminate these variables, and then maybe it's your scope.  Might not be a bad idea to have a gunsmith give the rifle a once-over to make sure all is well... the key is to practice and use equipment you're confident in . If that means a new scope is in order- go for it.

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