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Well CF2 asked me to post my thoughts on this new scope.  I got mine yesterday so not much time with it yet, but so far am very impressed. 

I did some initial glass comparisons out my back door on my lunch break with my Accupoint 1-4x, my IOR 4x, my Burris Euro 1.5-6x, and my Swaro Z6 1.7-10x (I used this one to really see how good the glass was)  This was not scientific at all and I don't know or even fully understand all the fancy jargon to explain this well.  But the SS 1-4x really made the Accupoint look bad.  I am not dogging on the Accupoint because they are very nice, and Accupoints have pretty nice glass, that is well known and accepted.  But comparing it to the SS, the SS is noticeably better.  The SS seems to have a sweet spot that encompasses the whole image and it just seems to keep going even beyond the edge of the image.  The Accupoint has a great sweet spot but as it moves to the edges it starts to get a little out of focus and just a bit fuzzy, so you don't get that image that seems to just keep going.  I never noticed this about the Accupoint til I got my Swaro then it was noticeable to me as it is against the SS as well.   Before I got the Accupoint CF2 at SWFA told me to wait and not get the Accupoint because the SS was going to be that much better, but I bought the Accupoint anyway as I really wanted a scope right then.  Oh well.  Big Grin

The other scopes were really not apples to apples, but I will say the SS has better glass than the IOR 4x, and the Burris Euro 1.5-6x.  Comparing it to the Swaro Z6 really impressed me.  It was not quite as good but I bet 90 to 95% as good.  They just really did a good job with the glass quality in this scope.  One thing about a Swaro to paraphrase one of Rancid Koolaids terms is the image just seems to keep going beyond the edge of the glass.  To me the SS seems to do this as well.  Maybe not quite as good as the Swaro, but still its impressive in that regard. 

Other things.  It has an FFP reticle with 10 mils worth of hash marks that can be used as hold overs.  Plus it has 1/10 mil adjustable knobs to dial in corrections if you want.  They are stiff enough that they won't be moving on their own and have good positive clicks that can be felt and heard.  Initially I thought they were to stiff, but the more I turned the knobs the more I liked them.   I got the T reticle.  Just doing some quick presentations to my shoulder, I can see it is not going to be a super fast reticle to get on target like the triangle accupoint.  But I really new that going into this and since this scope was going on my SPR wanna be AR which will not be used that way it is a perfect fit.  My next SS for my carbine will be the donut reticle which I am sure will solve that issue completely.  I am betting it will feel more like the eotech donut and offer some of that speed.

It has 11 settings for the lit reticle with an off between each one.  The first 10 are for low light use and they do not cause any bleeding in the scope at all, I mean zero.  I tested it in a pitch black room and I saw no bleeding.  11 is probably 5 or 6 times brighter than 10 as it is made to be used in daylight if wanted.  It does bleed into the scope in low light and is way to bright for low light, but can been seen in full light which is obviously what they were going for and they got it right.  As I was messing with it in a dark room I thought to myself finally someone figured out how to make a battery powered reticle that actually works in all light conditions.  Good job SWFA.  ExcellentExcellentExcellentExcellent

The magnification adjustment moves so smoothly, it makes the Accupoint, Burris, and Swaro feel stiff and seems like they take to much effort now.  In a couple weeks they will have a cat tail for the SS as well, though it moves so smooth it is not really a necessity.  I really really like how smooth and easy to move they made it.

They also got the reticle focus right.  Leupold IMO is one of the only companies besides the new SS line that have the reticle focus set up right.  I hate how all the European scopes and most other manufactures are using these fast focus eye pieces.  I have all kinds of problems with those things turning while I am hunting and using my scopes. (I have actually tapped most of mine with black tape so they will not move)  It is probably because I use butler creek caps on them and it catches on my body and causes them to turn. Whacko  But anyway back to the point.  You are suppose to focus the reticle to your eye and they leave it a lone.  The SS like the Leupold has a lock ring so once it is set, it stays set and no more worries on that.  Another well done to SWFA.  Maybe some of these other companies will catch on put a lock ring on their scopes.  

I took it out and shot a few rounds last night.  Just like any FFP mil knobed scope it was super easy to zero.  Once zeroed I did a quick make shift box test at 100 yards and it seemed to track right on the money.  I shot right up until dark and used the lit reticle, it worked perfectly.  My IOR even on the lowest setting was always way to bright, but the SS worked great.  Again good job SWFA.  The image in low light stayed nice and sharp and I was able to see almost as well with that scope up til dark as with the Swaro.  Problem with my Swaro is it has not lit reticle so I would not be able to shoot with it, when I can shoot with the SS.  But as far as image quality the Swaro offered me just a bit more time.  But, that is to be expected with the larger objective.  

I like it so much, I am going to work on getting one for all 4 of my ARs.  And probably even one of the capped knob ones for my Marlin 45-70.  It is one of the nicest scope I have ever owned.  And for the money it is the best I have owned period. 

My hats off to SWFA for this scope.  It is just flat out fantastic.  Good job guys.  Excellent

I got a Bobro mount to go with it.  That is a really nice mount by the way.  My only complaint with that mount is the sides where the ring halves come together is to thick/big and I cannot see the windage knob without coming completely off the gun.  But with a Larue mount, the issue is the same, it is just on the elevation knob.  Obviously I should learn to not need to look but I still like the visual of knowing I have the adjustment right. 

Here are a couple pics on my wanna be SPR.






Edited by supertool73 - February/24/2011 at 10:16
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ExcellentGood write up Jason!
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Nice review, Jason!
 
Thanks for posting!
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Thanks for the review.  SWFA has got a winner.
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EXCELLENT write-up, there is no doubt you are truly impressed with the new 1X4 SS.
 
SWFA hit a homerun on this one!!! Excellent  Excellent  Excellent
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Great write up Jason,simple,& to the point.Glad SS has hit a home run but then again what else have we come to expect from the SWFA gang ExcellentExcellentExcellent 
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Excellent  Nice write up.  Thanks for posting.
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That looks great! Yes, thanks for sharing!! 

Now....close that #%@&!&% dust cover!!!!!  Big Grin
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I left it open just for you.  Wink
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Outstanding write up and comparison. Now get out there and shoot!
 
The group is 7 1/2" fired at 700 yards with the SS 1-4 HD, LMT MWS CL using M118LR
 
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Nice shooting, Utah!

But you meant 70 yards, right? Everybody knows a person can't shoot past 100 yards without at least 20X magnification.

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Ya know Bitterroot you and I are lucky to have the wide open space to shoot as far as we want. Lots of people don't have that option and buy what they think they need rather than what they can try at long range. I'm not saying that this scope would make a good varmint rifle scope but as an SPR scope it is excellent and is certainly capable of providing accurate shots to the pratical limit of the 5.56 cartridge. (ya, I know in these photos I'm using a 7.62)
 
Same target with second group.
 
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Must be nice to shoot at those distances and farther.
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Shooting steel at long range is addictive. I've got seven targets and a buddy has three more. The SS scopes are the best buys out their for this type of shooting. This photo is a Springfield M1A using the SWFA SS 3-9X42 at 500 yards. This photo is also a finalist in the SWFA photo contest if you have not voted yet I'd appreciate it if you would consider voting for it.

 
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Great write-up.  I shot my new SS 1x4 today and had excellent results.  I live in MI and it is still cold here.  I used no illumination at all during the sighting in process.  Shot for about 1 1/2 hours then tried some fun stuff at 10 yards on 1x using illumination.  My illumination flickered on and off them went to working on 11 only then about 2 minutes later stopped altogether. Total illumination time on a new battery about 5 minutes.  It was about 35 degrees out.  Get back to my house, gun and scope sit for 30 minutes or so and works on all powers now just fine.  

I see that in your pics there was snow - did you experience any illumination issues in the cold?

I will say that I am in love with this scope despite the issue.  Just want to have it work all the time not part and it will be the perfect scope.  I am running it in a BCM 14.5 Middy. Oh and the capped turret with the lift and zero is the bomb!!!

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So what was the reason for the battery life?
Cold, bad battery, just don't last long, etc?
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Jason, Really Graet Write Up Man!!!!! 
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Great review.  I think I should be looking into them...
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Originally posted by brodeur272 brodeur272 wrote:

Great review.  I KNOW I should be looking into them...

Fixed.  Wink 
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Originally posted by smschulz smschulz wrote:

So what was the reason for the battery life?
Cold, bad battery, just don't last long, etc?

I really don't know yet.  I have had a PM from another guy that got a replacement scope and still had an issue.  He used a rubber oring under the cap and that solved his problem.  Not sure that we have the same problem but I am going to try the oring and see if that does it along with a new battery.  I don't know if it is standard to have the scope delivered with the battery installed but mine did.  I also received a credit because the scope I received had ring marks on it.  They said it may have been mounted for pictures - that is strange too.  Otherwise the scope is fine, just want to get the illumination issue solved.   I will be emailing SWFA and see what their answer is too.  I really like it and don't want a new one - this is sighted in and has turned my BCM into a real shooter. 

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Well I have been playing with this scope quite a bit more.  Spent a couple hours for two Saturdays and a couple of my lunch hours over the last couple of weeks shooting with it.  I have put it on 3 different rifles now just for fun. 

Each time I switched it it only took two shots to get a new zero with the new rifle, I just love having the reticle and knobs match up like that.  I have done several more box tests, shot it out to 400 yards and back several times.  It always comes right back to its zero.  This is just a great optic.

I got my Accupoint sold so I have another SS1-4x on the way with the donut reticle.  And two more Bobro mounts.  Those mounts are fantastic.  I have taken it on and off my gun several times and it puts me right back at the zero.
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Good to hear.  Mines been workign well too. I may, just may have to get another tooWink
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Sweet!!!!  Excellent


Please post more pics when you've got the second one mounted on your other ar.
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Just saw this review pop up. Nothing you said Jason, surprised me. This will definitely be my next purchase.

Thanks for the lengthy write up. Excellent
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