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Keep in mind the Minox ZA 5 3-15x42 is now off for replacement so this comparison may not be accurate. I compared the two at 9x. Side by side looking down the road the Conquest made it easier to read a street sign at about 600 yards and edge to edge was much better. The image seemed to "jump out" more. The Minox reticle was much sharper and "more black." This surprised me. The Conquest actually looked bronze and was slightly out of focus when the image was in focus. The Conquest had much less of a dark ring around the ocular, but I doubt that matters much. Overall the Conquest was easier on the eyes and had a better image, but the Minox had a better reticle and thus inspired more confidence in low light. The magnification range, weight and reticle tipped the scales towards the Minox for my needs. 
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Agreed, the Conquest is clearer but the Minox power range and price tag did it for me also when I chose the 4-20X50 ZA 5 over the Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14X50. I still am very happy with the Minox glass I just think the Zeiss is a touch better. The Minox has crazy long eye relief also.
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What do you gents think about the Minox power change ring and W/E knobs?  Those were things I absolutely did not like about the Minox samples I handled at the 2010 SHOT, but they may not have been representative of current production.  On the SHOT samples, the slick rubber covering over the power ring didn't seem to offer much grip, and the rubber itself seemed loose.  I would have preferred raised ridges or some sort of textured surface.  The adjustment knobs didn't have very prominent clicks and the knobs themselves had noticeable slack.
 
I realize those things may have just been flaws in the preproduction demos at SHOT, but nevertheless, I don't understand why they used smooth rubber on the power ring. 
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

What do you gents think about the Minox power change ring and W/E knobs?  Those were things I absolutely did not like about the Minox samples I handled at the 2010 SHOT, but they may not have been representative of current production.  On the SHOT samples, the slick rubber covering over the power ring didn't seem to offer much grip, and the rubber itself seemed loose.  I would have preferred raised ridges or some sort of textured surface.  The adjustment knobs didn't have very prominent clicks and the knobs themselves had noticeable slack.
 
I realize those things may have just been flaws in the preproduction demos at SHOT, but nevertheless, I don't understand why they used smooth rubber on the power ring. 
My knobs are fine and my power ring isn't loose but I also thought it may become an issue down the road. I don't mind it being rubber and slick really just would hate for that rubber ring to come unglued.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

What do you gents think about the Minox power change ring and W/E knobs?  Those were things I absolutely did not like about the Minox samples I handled at the 2010 SHOT, but they may not have been representative of current production.  On the SHOT samples, the slick rubber covering over the power ring didn't seem to offer much grip, and the rubber itself seemed loose.  I would have preferred raised ridges or some sort of textured surface.  The adjustment knobs didn't have very prominent clicks and the knobs themselves had noticeable slack.
 
I realize those things may have just been flaws in the preproduction demos at SHOT, but nevertheless, I don't understand why they used smooth rubber on the power ring. 

Ted: on the final models, the power ring is still slick rubber but there is one raised rib. The rubber feels tight. I would feel better with more raised ridges, but it is not worse than many other scopes.

The W/E knobs have good, definite clicks, but the first click in any direction is a touch more slack than the others, possibly leading to a miscount if you are not careful. I was told by CS that there is a way to make them tighter but I have not felt the need yet - might do so in the future. I rate them good but not great.

On the other hand, I am not in love with the Conquest mechanicals either:-)

In the end, I feel both mechanical adjustments on the Minox do the job - but I don't rate them superior in their class. However, as a package, between the optics, the reticle, the adjustments, the compactness and weight, the eyebox, and the range, I feel that the Minox is a very versatile, well engineered and clean scope, that has some outstanding attributes. I rate it, at this time, higher than any scope in its class if you have any need of an extended range, and have no hesitation in recommending it. For my use, the biggest "issue" is that the eyebox is a bit critical at high magnification. I have a 3-15, and for me at 14-15x there is not a huge amount of tolerance for your head position.
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I sure like the fact they offer the 1.5-8X32 ZA5!  I'm a fan of high quality, compact "tweeners" that most manufacturers discontinue or ignore of late.  I may have to check that scope out.
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Originally posted by Chris Farris II Chris Farris II wrote:

Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

What do you gents think about the Minox power change ring and W/E knobs?  Those were things I absolutely did not like about the Minox samples I handled at the 2010 SHOT, but they may not have been representative of current production.  On the SHOT samples, the slick rubber covering over the power ring didn't seem to offer much grip, and the rubber itself seemed loose.  I would have preferred raised ridges or some sort of textured surface.  The adjustment knobs didn't have very prominent clicks and the knobs themselves had noticeable slack.
 
I realize those things may have just been flaws in the preproduction demos at SHOT, but nevertheless, I don't understand why they used smooth rubber on the power ring. 
My knobs are fine and my power ring isn't loose but I also thought it may become an issue down the road. I don't mind it being rubber and slick really just would hate for that rubber ring to come unglued.
 
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Dan you crack me up with all the Taz pictures. To be more specific the turrets click and track fine not the best but above average. I have had no issues thus far with my power ring. I think this Minox ZA 5 is a very competive scope at its price point. Got me to buy one.Bandito
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