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i figured since we dont talk about these much i would start a discussion, so what are you guys using rifles bullets and powders?? how good is the accuracy, how bad is your rifle to clean etc?
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I use powerbelt bullets.  And hodgdon triple seven powder.  I just take my barrel off and run a bunch a really hot water down the barrel to clean it out.  Then a few patches and I am good to go.
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you use soap and hot water or something special?
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Just water

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triple 7 must burn pretty clean?
 
what do you shoot for a ml?? t/c encore?
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TC omega, ya it is not like black powder that is for sure.

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how many grains of powder you lighting off? 100 130 150?
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I usually shoot 150, but I think I am going to back down to 100.  It is more accurate.
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does utah make you use open sights or can you use a scope for muzzleloader?
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We can use a scope, but it cannot have magnification.
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same as here then, unless you use it during the standard firearms season?
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Ya, I believe it is like that here as well.
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I feed both my Encores ( have a stainless barrel topped with an Elite 4200 1.5-6 for the wood stocked model on the left ) . I feed them both 2x50gr and a 30 gr pellet  ( 130 total) off 777 . I use 250 gr Hornady bonded rounds in their easy glide sabot. I regularily get 1.5 moa at 100 yds with them . Cleaning chores consist of  pre - soaked T/C  and a dry patch  twice between each shot , and a good cleaning of the same and a quick run through of some BP specific plastic solvent once the day is done .I follow that up with a run through of pine scented bore butter . I also bought some BP specific bore foam, but have not tried it . Given I won't be able to get out this fall do to knee reconstruction, maybe next year I will see how it works.
I really like to Black powder hunt , and hope to use my traditional 58 Zuave next fall ..should be fun to work a load up for that 58 cal smoke pole. Big%20Grin
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i figured since we dont talk about these much i would start a discussion, so what are you guys using rifles bullets and powders?? how good is the accuracy, how bad is your rifle to clean etc?
 
 You could always buy a Savage 10ML and use smokeless powder and not clean your muzzleloader any more often than you would clean any other rifleBig%20Smile
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I use 2 triple 7 magnum pellets which is the equivelant of 150 grains of 777 in my older Winchester bolt X-150 fluted barrel muzzleloader.  My bullet of choice is the Scorpion PT Gold 260 gr. polymer tip bullet.  I have scoped my rifle with an older Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14-x40 without the side focus.  I might be bragging but I can have five shots touch one another at 100 yards, and at the local gun club I can hit the silhoutte ram at 300 meters.  I usually clean up with a black powder bore cleaner (the name of which eludes me), a bore brush and enough patches to clean the bore.  I have a spare breech plug which I swap with the dirty one so I can soak it to clean the dirty one.  To store gun until next season, I clean just a little more aggressively and when bore is clean, I run a couple of oiled patches to ensure it won't rust and leave the breech plug out to let the barrel "breathe".  I have never had any problem with rust like a couple of hunting buddies have experienced .  Hope this helps.
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I have a Omega 50 cal, with a 3-9x40 4200 with talleys. I shoot 2 - 50gr pellets of 777, barnes spitfire 245gr  and use the 777 209 primers. I usually get 1.5 inch groups. I clean between every shot with the TC presoaked patches and sometimes spray gun scrubber down the barrel too, then 2 dry patches. after every range session I run a  bore brush.
 
now this year for ML season in LA and MS we can use a 45-70, sooo I bought a H&R handi rifle 45-70 $239.00 with the thumb extension $10.00, talley rings $52.00 and a 3-9x40 4200 $250.00, 1 box of Hornady leverloution 325gr bullets $29.00  - if you can't beat em, join em.
 
 
 
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H&R handi rifle 45-70 $239.00
Thumb extension $10.00
Talley rings $52.00
3-9x40 4200 $250.00
Box of Hornady LEVERevolution 325gr bullets $29.00  
 
Large gut pile......... Priceless! 
 
 
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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

H&R handi rifle 45-70 $239.00
Thumb extension $10.00
Talley rings $52.00
3-9x40 4200 $250.00
Box of Hornady LEVERevolution 325gr bullets $29.00  
 
Large gut pile......... Priceless! 
 
 
 
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so what is considered the "standard" weight of bullet in the .50 cal muzzleloader??
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I like that PYRO, :-) 

not sure about the standard weight, shooting at deer I like a 250 +/- gr bullet. for bigger game I would assume a larger gr is needed. 

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