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I am thinking about getting a muzzleloader for hunting and just to play around with. What do you guys recommend? Saw there is a sale on CVAs. Need some advice before I jump in.
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I have an older knight that is the old no11 caps.  The breech plug is siezed into the barrel so I cant covert it to the 209 primer yet.  Hopefully i can get a machine shop to fix it now they have the coversion kits again from knight's new re-opening.  It shoots decent now at around 1.5MOA at 100yds. 
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Did you try a torch on that yet ? I seem to recall you going through all the various penetrating oils.
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Nothing ever worked.  Last resort is to possibly drill it out to 1/2" and try to use a  tap the clear treads clear.  I was told I could send it in to knight but they may charge me for a new barrel if they mess it up getting it out.  I am just waiting till i find a 5/8" x 18 tap to use before i carry it to a shop.
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Maybe I post that dilemma else where to see if someone else has any bright ideas.
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Quick Q ? Is this an MK-85 or should I say is this a blued gun not stainless ?
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 A nice Knight Disc for sale on modernmuzzleloader.com classifieds, stainless 50 cal. All you may need for it is a Lehigh Gen II breech plug & some Blackhorn 209.
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Thompson Center Triumph!!!!!!
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Andrew, I think most of the new M/L are pretty decent.  The only suggestion I have is make sure it has a stainless barrel and breech plug.
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Helo, did you ever get that muzzleloader? Sorry about this very late post. I just wanted to caution that there can be a large difference between a hunting ML and just a playing around one. Over the line here in Idaho, ignitions must be exposed, 209 primers are prohibited, jacketed projectiles and sabots are prohibited, no glass sights, etc etc.
 
I don't know the Montana rules, but online or even some big-box stores here in Idaho sell muzzleloaders that are not legal for hunting in muzzloading seasons.
 
As for me, I still hunt with my 30 year old Thompson Center Hawken percussion. A beautiful shooter with 90 grains of loose Pyrodex pushing a 370 grain MaxiBall. I've taken four bulls with it. What a joy!
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True the choice of musket should reflect what state you want to hunt in.  In Iowa we use muzzleloaders they can be closed breach with 209 and you can put any scope you want on it. When I was in Wa. the rules were like Idaho where it had to be exposed.  The inline style with  209 is much more user friendly to clean and maintain.  As noted above failing to put grease on the threads of the breach plug is one of the disasters one can have with them. The others are do not double load it by accident you need to have a system to let you know its loaded and I put a piece of masking tabe as a note over the end of the barrel with loaded written on it.  You run into this when you hunt the gun multiple days without fireing it.  When you shoot it run a wet patch down the bore after each shot then a dry patch . If you get a patch and the rod stuck at the bottom of the barrel when doing this - pour some cleaning solvent down the barrel to get the patch wet then it will come out.   I use Thompson Center Encore and if the budget will allow buy the barrel and fore end  from Bullberry. The nice thing about that system is that you can have a centerfire barrel for it also and that makes a nice light rifle even is heavy calibers - I have a .375 H&H barrel as well as my 50 musket barrel.    As for the CVA guns on sale most of these shoot pretty good but I think TC is on the forefront of breechplug technology.  I had a Knight when they were built in Centerville Iowa where my farm is.  I was never really happy with it because I bought one in .45 cal and those sabbots are harder to find plus it would foul the breach plug after about 3 shots to where it would fail to fire.
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I have had several.  Knight, White, TC Hawkin, TC Omega, and the TC Prohunter.  The TC prohunter is the bomb IMO.  THe grip, stock, and trigger is a lot nicer than some of the other TC guns. 

Plus with the Prohunter the option is there if you ever wanted to add a rifle barrel to it.  They have tons of calibers out for it now. 
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I love my Triumph...but if I could change one thing..it would be the trigger. I feel it's not rounded enough. But over all I love my setup (Triumph/Nikon Omega ML scope). It's light, balanced..and puts deer on their A$$!!!!--DirtySCREW
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I did buy one, but it wasn't the one I mentioned in my original post.  One of the great members here sold me one of his for a great deal.  It is a CVA Kodiak 50 cal.  I haven't shot it yet since I don't have all my supplies yet due to being out hunting so much.

Terry.  I believe here in Montana there are not rules regarding what type of muzzleloader you can use.  There is no specific muzzleloader season here.  You can only use them during rifle season so they are not as fussy about what you use.

I plan on using the powerbelts because I hear they are easier to clean after use.  I would appreciate any list of items I will need so I can go get everything.
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I'm a TC fan.  If you don't have any restrictions, choose one in your price range.  I have a stainless/composite Omega which is a great ml.  I have a friend with a triumph which I am impressed wih as well.  I'd love to have an encore but then you get into wanting to buy different barrels for it.
 
If you have restrictions, go TC Hawkin but they aren't nearly as cheap as they used to be.
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I'm a T/C fan as well and own the Omega and Triumph.  Both are extremely accurate but if I had to pick one, it would be the Triumph. 
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