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Damn year later looks like I'll be able to pull the trigger this year, tho i wont hold my breath. this what I THINK i have come up with.
 
Vortex 6.5-20x44 Viper 30mm Rifle Scope  the scope is for sure as it would be used more for hunting  & different ranges.
 
here is where  I'm having  a hard try to decide on what mounts & rings to go with from the choses i have here
 
 
  
 
 
 
HELP ME GUYS ME  HEAD HURTS TO MUCH Loco Whacko  I want to say under $500 or a little over not much more than $20 or $30 over

one more thing I want to put on here is how  different is the Vortex 6.5-20x44 Viper 30mm Rifle Scope than a Nikon 4.5-14x40 Buckmaster Riflescope as in glass ect..... for the priceI think it is a pretty good scope. As of  right its the only scope I own thats worth a damn

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Vortex 4-16x50 Viper HS 30mm Rifle Scope Vortex 4-16x50 Viper HS 30mm Rifle Scope
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Go back and read what I wrote on your other post.  Use Talley lightweight ringmounts.  My experiences with Burris leave a lot to be desired.
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OK  i'm want the most bang for my buck , I dont run out all the time buy the top of the line stuff for my rifles man. last time I put a good scope on one was a little over 7 yrs ago. ( good to me that is)

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Lots of us cant afford to buy the top of the line stuff but we still want our equipment to work. You pay for features you need, avoid the ones you dont need. If all you want is a basic scope with good glass and you are not going to dial in correction  there are a lot of scopes that will work.  When you start wanting to dial in correction to correct for trajectory its going to cost you something.  When you increase magnification you dont do yourself any favor unless you have at least to 4200 or Viper or VX3 or Conquest quality glass, so if you cant go there keep the power down. If you dont know what glass quality you want you need to look through some scopes to understand the difference. If the gun is only a hunting gun that you use under 200 yds say so but if its going to be long range target or long range hunting or tactical your needs are different. Why you are headed toward picatinny rail and tactical rings Im not sure but you are better off to save the money by buying Talley lightweight ringmounts and put the difference into a better scope.  The SS 3-9 was a good all around choice then you decided you needed more power and wanted to go to what 6.5-20 so I am suggesing you compromise and go 4-16 where you only loose one power on the low end but gain 7 more on the high end and the scope while not tactical will allow you to dial in correction for long range hunting or long range target. You pick what you want but if you want the  best suggestion then tell us more about how you will use it.
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well lets see its pretty much going to be used on an all around gun hunting ,target blah blah. where I hunt @ the closet I've ever killed a deer was 75yrds. the furthest deer was 550 yrds, I do want scope that dial up/ down keep the same zero, with out cutting a nut off to do so. I'll only get one chance @ this years way things are going thats with the taxes coming in . Like said b4 in other post I don't like a 3 x 9 scope  don't know why I just donut liked them, they work great on a 22 or something like that .Hell man I came into this thing with one thing in mind now I'm so fuc*ing confused I don't even now anymore.  Sorry if I'm not give ya the right information doing my best here ...
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I just got a Vortex like the one you listed, but I went 50mm.
I'm using a Warne steel 20moa rail with TPS/TRS steel alloy rings.
Now, the experts on this forum will tell you that QUALITY aluminum rings & bases are every bit as good as steel, and I wouldn't argue that.
I just like the heavy stuff myself.
By most accounts with this sight, you really do get what you pay for, not saying the most expensive is the always best, but it'll be damn good.
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I've done a lot of hunting with a 3-9 and with a fixed 6x but I have a variety of scopes in different powers its taken me a lifetime to get there though.  When I only had one scope and one rifle it was a 2-7 power.  One of my sons really liked higher magnification scopes but there is some down side to them because how bright a scope is depends on the size of the objective (front lens) divided by the power that the scope is. A 6x42 scope would be 42mm divided by 6 power =  7mm exit eye pupil so as bright as you can possibly use.  A 20x50 scope would be 50mm divided by 20 = 2.5 mm exit eye pupil really grey like putting on a couple pair of sunglasses in low light.  With a variable you can dial down to 6 or 7 power and the image will brighten up.   Where lower powers are helpful is at distances closer than 100 yds.  I find that I can get onto a deer pretty good at 6 power at 50 yds but at 9 power I have trouble finding the same deer in the scope.  At 3 power no problem.  Lots of guys hunted successfully with a 4x  years ago and killed lots of deer with just that.  I really feel like the ideal power range is a 4 to 16 or a 5 to 20 if you are mostly hunting deer that are 100 to   500 yds away.  I dont really see a lot of need for scopes with higher power range than that because you would have to set the rifle in sand bags to use it.  Sometimes fiddeling with a scope that is too high a power cost you getting the  shot off in time.  If you dont like a 3-9 the next step up to me would be a 4-16 and considering the quality of the viper line I woud recommend waiting for the long range hunting model that I posted above.  Also some of the Bushnell 4200 scopes will probably go on sale sometime since they are changing their line and the 4200 scope are good glass. Irregardless I would strongly suggest you consider the new Viper HS Long range or the 3-9 Super Sniper and that not so much because of the power range as because it has a lot of internal adjustment and the clicks are 1/10 mil with a mil dot reticle and with FFP the scope has a lot going for it that will help you strike your target at long range even though it wont be as much magnification it is likely more deadly.  Note I put 3-9 Super Sniper scopes on both my boy's 300 win mag rifles.   Be cautious how much internal adjustment scopes have that have a lot of magnification because they may not have enough to shoot past 500 or 600 yds with the Super Sniper you dont have to worry about that they have a huge amount of adjustment so plus moa bases are not needed.  Ive tried a lot of different mounts and rings and for the money the lightweight talley ringmounts are a bargain and I highly recommed them.
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Thanks Wes sorry if I've been a little assy about this. I do believe I'll go with the talley sit up tho. As for the scope IDK lol. I feel better if can zoom up on the deer or target I do most of my shooting on 10 power with my buckmaster. So yeah I really don't know yet. I would love one the SS but right now can only afford  the 10x42mm, I really don't want to wait any longer to get my rifle sat up right. I've had the damn thing for 3yrs now only put maybe 100 or 200 rounds threw it. After almost losing my deer this year I don't want to go threw that again. If I get my 308 sat up now it would give me enough time to set some ballistic for. Once again sorry if I was an a$$ or if I ramble on @ times. Big Grin
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