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    Posted: April/17/2006 at 14:52

Well I've been hearing so many people rave about the Super Sniper that I broke my "High Magnification Mold" and ordered the Super Sniper SS10X42M (the one with Side Focus Adjust)  If anyone has read my past posts I tend to go for High Magnifcation.  I've been builidng an AR-15 with an A4 Upper and the SS is going on it.

 

Can you guys give me some ideas of how to mount the SS ...... pictures would be a help.  I'd love to get diiferent solutions and pick out my favorite.

 

This is what the AR will look like (except mine has a 20" barrel with a Hogue Float tube) if that will help and this mount doesn't look too bad even

 

    



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I have an AR just about like that...DPMS Panther Bull 16. I used Warne AR-15 ultra high quick detach rings right on the flattop. Works great. I have a 6.5 Grendel upper on the way and will have an identical set of rings for it. I really like them.

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 When I got my SS I did not do a lot of research but I lucked out on my combination. May not look the best but it worked out great FOR ME. I perfer a " charging handle cheekweld" . Its a ARMS EXTENDED 36 Swan/Sleeve mount, I believe its a little over 8" long and allows moving the scope foward. The rings are High 30MM Leupold steel QRW's. Been realiable thru 1500 rnds.


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Nice sticks, fellas!

 

Henry455:

Man, you got that scope mounted low!!

Looks good.

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Like I said I lucked out on the scope height and position of the scope. Thats a 20 X SS and as you know eye relief/position is pretty critical on that model but its worked great for me. And by the way, its a very accurate combo using inexpensive WWB 45 gr. Varmit loads and Blackhills Blue box 52 gr. MHP. at least for this 60 year old shooter.
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Man Henry455 it looks like a clone ..... I can't wait to get it finished up and out to the range.  I ordered the Super Sniper SS10X42M yesterday from SWFA on EBAY ... waiting to get my "ship notification".  I'm thinking about using a real good quick disconnect mount on the SS (yours look like they would do the trick) and then possibly pick up a Weaver 36x40 T-Series Rifle Scope for strickly "Range Target Work" ..... got to wait until I see what the 10X looks like on a 100/200 yard target. 

 

Once I get the SS I'll see what kind of height I want too .... yours looks sweet ..... I tend to like my scopes sitting low also ... might be just right.  I can always go for different height LEOs if I need a little extra.

 

BTW .... I'm a 59 year old shooter ... almost another clone.

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Is this the ARMS Sleeve

 

A.R.M.S.® #36™ Ex OSR Swan® Sleeve

 

     http://www.armsmounts.com/catalog.php?action=124&item_id =30

 

 



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Thats the one. By the way, if this helps the ARMS mount is 1/2" high and the Leupold 30mm High QRW rings are .98 "(from bottom to ring center) This gives a total height of 1.4-1.5 "
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Henry455 is that a stubby stock or a regular length one?

 

Reason I'm asking is this .... I don't have my upper yet but if I shoulder my stock and measure between the glass in my glasses and the rear end of where it looks like your scope comes to (and thats with my head being in a comfortable spot) I measure almost 5 1/2".  It says the eye relief of the SS10X42M is 4".  And the 20 that you have says it is 3 1/2".  So it seems that the scope on mine wouldn't have to sit as far forward as yours looks like it is .... if you stock was a stubby that would explain it ..... if it isn't then is it that the stated eye relief is accurate?

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 The lower is a 1966 vintage SP1 so its a A1 length stock, can not remember the difference between a A1 and A2 but its not a whole lot. The good thing about the extended mount is that the extra length is there in case you will ever need it. I know its approx. a $70.00 gamble for the sleeve but in my case I won.
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Henry455,

 

My upper is due in today .... scope shipped last night (due in on Monday).  Got to do a trigger job on the lower, change over to Hogue Float and Grip (got them here ready to go) so by Monday night I should be ready to figure out where my Scope needs to be mounted.  I'm still trying to figure out whether to add BUIS or not.  I found some nice ARMS Rings that provide a look thru spot .... and come in three different heights.  In the meantime I'm staying out of trouble handloading a couple hundred rounds to play with.  Seeing your AR got me even more psyched .... looks SOOO good.  Have you tried any loads with Sierra Matchking HPBTs.  I have 52gr and 69gr and I'm anxious to try them out.  I'm going to look around for the  WWB 45 gr. Varmit loads and Blackhills Blue box 52 gr. MHP too.  Never have too much ammo on a sunny day at the range.

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My upper is a RRA 24" Varmit (bull) with a Wylde chamber and 1-12 " twist so it perfers the lighter (shorter) bullets. I do not reload so all of my paper punching is done with the cheaper .223/5.56 ammo. I have tried almost everything available including Federal AE, Remington UMC, Winchester WB, XM193,  and Q3131 and the Black Hills BB (reloaded) ammo. The Black Hills BB 52 gr. Match HPBT is the most accurate in my particular rifle. The BHBB averages under 1", 5 shot groups all flyers counted, that average is from 65 groups (325 rnds.). The WWB 45 gr. is almost as good and will average right at 1" all day long. If you have a faster twist barrel, 1 in 9, 1 in 8, or 1 in 7 you will need to experiment to see which works best for you. The heavier (longer) bullets are probably more suitable. I highly recommend the Black Hills blue box line of ammo for relative inexpensive, quality, accurate ammunition.
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Hey Henry455 ..

 

Mine is an RRA 20" Varmint, also with a Wylde Chamber, with a 1 in 8" Twist.  I'm probably gonna try to work up a nice load using the Sierra Matchking 69gr HPBT.

 

Last night I cut 3 strips of cardboard .... 1 is 1" wide and 12" long, the second is 1 1/2" wide and 12" long, and the third is 2" wide and 12" long.  I shouldered the AR and one by one I placed the strips of cardboard on the flat-top (1, 1 1/2, or 2" side vertically, with the 12" length pointing down the barrel) and sighted along them to see where the center of the scope would be most comfortable.  It looks like the center axis will be between 1" and 1 1/2" above the flat-top.  I also double checked on the eye relief of the scope and figured out where that will line up.  It looks like I'm at the same place as you in both cases.  The forward/rearward position looks the same (back of the scope just about even with the rear of the charging handle) .... I'm gonna wait for the scope to come up with the exact height but it looks close.

 

Once I get the scope, I'm going to cut several small blocks of wood, different heights, flat on one side and a v on the other and use them to "temporarily" mount the scope and see what height I need. 

 

 

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i have a Bushmaster 24inch varmint with a Nikon 5.5-16x44. i've had this set up for about 5 years now.. i have never been pleased with the eye relief.. the scopes needs to sit another 1/2 inch - 1inch further forward. as U can see in the pic.. i pretty much ran out of adjustment.. the Yankee Hill and Arms riser mount seems like the perfect solution.

 

well, seems SWFA doesnt have the ARMS #36 in stock.  closes alternative would be the GG&G: 1028 or the 1001.

 

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