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Any reccommendations for mounts for a Model 70 in 300 win mag?
will mount a 1 inch scope not sure which one but 44 mm or less bell.

Will Talley LW hold up to heavier 180-200 grain loads or go to steel or a rail?

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I doubt that Talley's will give you any trouble handling the recoil. My only concern is it will have to be a fairly long-tubed scope, and getting eye-relief might be a problem.

A picatinney rail would solve that, but they do not really fit the classical hunter lines.
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Originally posted by billyburl2 billyburl2 wrote:

I doubt that Talley's will give you any trouble handling the recoil. My only concern is it will have to be a fairly long-tubed scope, and getting eye-relief might be a problem.



Are you basing this off of the fact the scopes going on a Model 70 receiver, Bill? 

Talley LW's will hold up, strength wise. No question. Rails, typically give the shooter more fore and aft certainly.    
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I have Talley UL on two rifles, both are Savage short-actions They are holding basically the same scope,one is a SS 10x, the other is a 3-15 SS. The rings are near both ends of the tube, so I imagine this would get worse on a long-action receiver. Hence my apprehension.
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First pick a scope. The dimensions of the scope will dictate the mounting solution.
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Mounting hole position same as on any other long action Model 70. Scope with a straight tube length same or a bit shorter than a 2.5-10 z3 should work as long as eye relief and eyebox ok or am I missing something. Leupy swaro or meopta have models.
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A scope with a mounting length of 5.5 inches (approximately) will reach across a regular long action. 
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Plus rails get in the way of loading on hunting rifles. I have both and prefer two piece bases.
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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

Plus rails get in the way of loading on hunting rifles. I have both and prefer two piece bases.

Good point. I have mounted a few different scopes now on Talley LW's and have found them to be ideal. I've switched from Picatinny rails to the Talley's. Less weight and easier loading/unloading via the ejection port, then the rail.

You can actually "flip" the front ring mount on a Rem 700 short action, to obtain more fore or aft scope placement, if required.  
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First and foremost, congratulations on picking the right caliber, "the" right caliber! I am a huge 300WM fan, if I could have only 1 rifle, it would be a 300. Since I can have multiple rifles, I have multiple 300s.

Next, I'll go against the consensus and recommend a rail on top, it gives much more flexibility in proper scope positioning (which is far more important than ease of loading or the few more ounces such a setup costs), and gives a good measure of protection against mis-aligned holes for scope mounts.

Lastly, the Talley stuff, even the light weight, are no problem for your recoil. I have a few sets on a few guns that kick like a 3-legged ninja and have had no problems with slippage.

I would recommend you get a decent torque wrench. Most of the issues with scopes I have seen dorked were dorked due to bad equipment when mounted.

Of the brands listed, Meo and Swar would be my choices, Leupy belongs in a different category, a lesser category. I am a huge fan of Swarovski, I have several AV and PH scopes and absolutely love them. I have no meoptas at the moment, but had a 3-12 that I liked, but eye relief was a bit short and it was going on a 7-pound 300WM - and I am no fan of being kissed by my scope.
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I recently mounted  a set of DNZ's on a friends 700, and I was impressed with the simplicity of this product, as well as the cost. The one piece rings and base are machined from a single billet of aluminum, and are predrilled to align with your specific firearm.

http://swfa.com/Winchester-C2623.aspx

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Thanks folks.

I had a take off pair of Tally lightweights taken of another model 70  and and 1990s 3-9 leupold (black ring economy model) I experimented with placement.  The smith had lapped this set and I found out reusing lapped Talley lightweights is a bad idea if you like the black finish on you scope. Otherwise the Talley LW have been good to me.

I have a Z3 on another model 70 LA so I know that will fit but don't know if I would trust it on a 300.  I think the Z5s and Z6s have a different erector but I may be mistaken.   The 4-12 might be a good scope for this gun. The meoptas are heavier but if they are anything like their spotters should be great glass and tough.  Seem like the Leupold V3 3.5-10 is popular too.

A rail would make it easier to swap scopes if a guy needed to but don't look as stylish. Maybe should try one. 

Rancid:  I torque everything but this is my first belted magnum.   I bought this 300 used as a project gun and figure the recoil might help keep my brain from hardening.  Expecting tiny groups at long distances.  If the barrel won't do it it will get sold or rebarreled  to a 338 or something more exotic.
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