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Wondering if anyone knows anything about the Mosin Nagant 91/30.  I have two of them and want to learn more about them and other information about 7.62x54r shooting rifles...
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I think Koshkin fools around with those. Might drop him a PM if he doesn't see this thread.
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I have a few Mosin Nagants here and there.  Is there anything specific you are wondering about?

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have a few Mosin Nagants here and there.  Is there anything specific you are wondering about?

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The one I had shot 2 feet high and 2 feet to the right at 100 yards on iron sights , I never put a scope on it and sold it.
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Originally posted by Duce Duce wrote:

The one I had shot 2 feet high and 2 feet to the right at 100 yards on iron sights , I never put a scope on it and sold it.
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Man I wish I'd have bought that! It would have hit dead on at 450 yards while shooting south in SD!(westerly winds would have taken care of shooting right) I plan to have one of these some day, just haven't bought one yet.
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With which ammo?  Have you tried adjusting the sights?

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The ammo came with the gun ?? but that was with the sights at max correction both front and rear.
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A lot of Mosin Nagants were refurbished or otherwise tweaked since WWII.  Shave front sights that do not match rear sights, etc.  Generally, front sight is drift adjustable and there are a few different front sight versions floating around that have different heights. 

As for the "ammo that came with the gun", that can be just about anything.  At least a dozen countries have made 7.62x54R ammo with a number of variations being designed for a number fo differnt rifles and machine guns.  For example, in many rifles there is easily a foot or so difference between POIs of Albanian light ball and Yugo heavy ball machine gun ammo.

There there is the cleaning issue.  There is a fair chance that a particular Mosn Nagant has not been cleaned since 1943 or so.  Proper cleaning can do wonders.

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 Some have side-folding bayonets and shoot dramatically different with the bayo folded than they do with it extended, or so I hear...
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I have two 91/30s that I have yet to shoot because I can not find any ammo around here for it...  I was wondering where I might info about price values for certain years and factories...  I think one that I have is a 1942 Tula ex-sniper.  I would like to find some pre war mounts and scope.  I know that is going to run around $500 for them.  But I will look at them closer and see what markings are on them...  Is there any certain things I should look for really rare ones... 
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 Some have side-folding bayonets and shoot dramatically different with the bayo folded than they do with it extended, or so I hear...


That would be M44.  They are sighted in with the bayonet extended.

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If you are looking for a Mosin as a shooter, get one of the Finnish barreled ones such as a M39.
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I have an M44 in like new condition. With bayonet folded and surplus ammo it printed about 2"high and 4" left first time out with the standard iron sights.  Keep it as a curiosity but mine is a fine shooter.
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Had a friend that had one of the Finnish Nagants. He was shooting with a couple of other friends that were using Remington 700 Varminters in 223 with big Leupold scopes. They were shooting at a 6x12 plate at 250 yds. The guys with the Remys were shooting off a bench and occasionally hit the plate. The guy with Nagant was shooting offhand and rarely missed the plate. Now the guy with the Nagant is a good shot, but I was still impressed with the rifle.
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You may have to try several types of ammo in a Finn Mosin to find one that the rifle likes.....but with the right load, they can be very accurate. I have shot on several occassions, 1.5 MOA, 5 shot group @ 100yds using a iron sighted Finn M39. Mine has a 1941 dated SAKO barrel, but the Russian action used by the Finns used to build this particular M39, is dated 1898......making the rifle an antique by Federal definition
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