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Took these a few minutes ago as the sun was setting. Enjoy!















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If you want the sun to look very large in a photo you use a high powered telephoto lens. No matter what you do it is almost impossible to accurately capture the true beauty of a sunset because film only has a latitude of about 4 to 5 f stops and digital is only slightly better. Color transparency film (slide film) is often the most accurate for this but it is difficult to find a lab that does good reversal prints and as digital grows it will become a lost art. If your camera allows you to control over and under exposure (exposure compensation) you can adjust what you get and the other thing you can do is adjust the image with filters  and by adding flash to ballance the foreground with the background.  A really good photo has foreground subject and background like a painting.

Nice sunset keep up your photography.Thunbs%20Up

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Are you standing in a wheat field?   Bro. that is cool.
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Very nice helo.
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U,
 
You could still send slide direct to Kodak with a mailer.  They can do medium format if you make the arangements. Slide like to be a bit underexposed for color saturation, thus sunsets come out great.
 
 Digital likes to be a hair underexposed.  If you play with the focus zone, those also set the exposure.  You could mess with the light tempeture setting, but I don't think you will like what you get. See where the program setting put you and use your own judgement.
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I don't have a huge telephoto lense on the camera and I hate using digital zoom.  Everything else can be manually changed on the camera.  I will keep playing around with the settings and take some more sunset pics.  You guys can let me know what I am doing wrong with it.  Thanks for all the tips!
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Originally posted by Steelbenz Steelbenz wrote:

Are you standing in a wheat field?   Bro. that is cool.
 
That wheat field is out my back door.  I can walk right up to it.  If I get another good sunset to night, I might go out in the pasture and see what pics I can get.
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Try climbing up on a ladder or something when you shoot.  "Clamp" the camera down to the ladder so you do not induce motion to the picture. 
 
If you are better at photchop than I am then you can add layers. I'd start shooting a bit sooner in the day.  Start shooting early in the morning for the reverse.
 
In the old days, of just a few years ago, you could have rented a medium format film camera that took panoramic pictures.  Then you get into some VERY cool vistas.
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very Very nice Thanks for sharing.
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Beautiful pictures, Helo. Post more.
My wife suggested setting up on a tripod, setting f/16-f/22 and experimenting with exposure time using a starlight filter.
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Beautiful pictures, Helo. Post more.
My wife suggested setting up on a tripod, setting f/16-f/22 and experimenting with exposure time using a starlight filter.
 
I will put it on the highest f stop i can.  Not sure how high the digital will go.  Don't have a starlight filter either, but I will play with a few other setting to see what happens.
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Outstanding! Thanks for sharing, Helo.
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Originally posted by silver silver wrote:

Try climbing up on a ladder or something when you shoot.  "Clamp" the camera down to the ladder so you do not induce motion to the picture. 
 
If you are better at photchop than I am then you can add layers. I'd start shooting a bit sooner in the day.  Start shooting early in the morning for the reverse.
 
In the old days, of just a few years ago, you could have rented a medium format film camera that took panoramic pictures.  Then you get into some VERY cool vistas.
 
I have a few things I can climb.  A silo, or loader bucket in the air.  My brother played with some medium format camera a couple years ago.  Got some great pics.  I am waiting for the sunset tonight.  Looks like there might be a storm building too, so it could make for some great pics if I can get the setting right.
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Nice Andy..... Thanks for sharing.....You lucky dawg.
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I am spoiled to live out here.  Montana is such a beautiful state!  Didn't get any pics of the sunset tonight.  Storm covered it all.  Will try again tomorrow.
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Originally posted by helo18 helo18 wrote:

I am spoiled to live out here.  Montana is such a beautiful state!  Didn't get any pics of the sunset tonight.  Storm covered it all.  Will try again tomorrow.
 
 
Great pics helo, It's amazing to see such vast open country. But how far to some trees? That would take some gettin used too for me!
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Very nice, Helo.

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Originally posted by Sgt. D Sgt. D wrote:

Originally posted by helo18 helo18 wrote:

I am spoiled to live out here.  Montana is such a beautiful state!  Didn't get any pics of the sunset tonight.  Storm covered it all.  Will try again tomorrow.
 
 
Great pics helo, It's amazing to see such vast open country. But how far to some trees? That would take some gettin used too for me!
 
There are mountains within 25 miles in every direction.  I get the best of both worlds.
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Andy, Your one lucky devil.  Post some more anytime. 
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I will post more pics as I get them.  I am tempted to start a thread and try to post on good pic every day.
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I wish you would bring your chopper down. It hit 104 today and were expecting 106 tomarrow. No wind today, that is very odd for here. I spent the afternoon framming up walls in the loft of the barn. NEED COOL AIR! The sunset here was just HOT.Whacko
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It has been in the 90s up here for about 3 weeks.  I am ready for it to cool down.  I would love to bring the chopper down for you, but this week is the Rockin the Rivers concert up here.  The chopper is scheduled for tours the whole week.  I will be flying for a couple of those days.
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http://www.cokin.com/  Some times it can be fun to play with creative filters.  Flash also can be used creatively. With manual film cameras we used to do double exposures and work creatively with flash at night. For example you can set a camera on a tripod and take a cable release and lock the shutter open at night and walk around a large building popping a hand held flash toward the building from multiple positions on one exposure creating lighting technique that lights the entire building. Also flashes with slaves can be placed behind objects to back light them triggered by the flash on camera or a radio slave remote control.  Photography was a lot more fun and challenging for me prior to digital.  There is also a phenomena where the out of focus highlights take on the shape of the maximum aperture of the lens  - what that means is you put a black piece of paper over the camera lens with a heart cut out set to maximum aperture use a telephoto lens with short depth of field then take a photo of a bride and groom with wedding candles out of focus behind them and the fire on the candle becomes heart shaped.  Same same with christmas tree lights behind a child.  As for filters the most commonly used are a soft focus filter especially good for womens portraits and a star filter that makes highlights like candles star out in 6 or 8 points and warming filters (tan)  note yellow and violet are opposites on the color wheel  add one loose the other same with red and green add one loose the other.  Exposure gives you how light or dark certain things are the trick becomes matching exposure of the foreground to the existing light of the background by dragging the shutter (longer shutter times to gain more light) Fill flash from the front and if possible off camera to one side to gain a three dimentional highlight and shaddow effect.  With photos of people try to fill up the background behind them with trees and eleminate as much of the sky as possible.   Lighting is the key element to turn a good photo into a truely great work of art.
The german therory is "less is more" often applies in photos as it is best to remove distracting elementsl.  Warm tones (yellow red) advance cool tones (blue green) receed.
for portait images clothes that are blue of green combined with a dark background make the face really stand out.  Try experimenting with adding light  use flash off camera at an angle or use reflectors (silver or white or gold color pannels to bounce light toward the subject to add fill light.  You are already doing good we want you to win some photo contests now by adding special elements that will make your photos art grade.  


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[QUOTE=helo18]Took these a few minutes ago as the sun was setting. Enjoy!

 

This one has a lot of potential take this and add another element like a woman and a child holding hands facing toward the sunset away from camera or a couple holding each other, or a nude woman skylighted by the sun with her hand down touching the wheat (remember the intro to Gladiator) or a boy and his dog with a single shot shotgun and add off camera lighting and you have a winning image. (throw a rifle scope in there and no telling where you might be able to enter the photo. )
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