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I am looking to put a 4-16x50 on my .264 mag I've narrowed it down to the monarch and the elite 4200.  Which glass do you guys think is better.  I am just gonna get the regular plex not intrested in the bdc. Thanks for your imput
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My opinion would be to go with the 4200, while I believe they're a toss up optically, the bushnell offers you rain guard and a free jacket.

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Need a yacket??? Go the 4200............If not, start splitting alot of hairs between those two.
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For the $599 for the Elite, I think I would buy the Zeiss Conquest 4.5-14x44 from samplelist.com. Otherwise probably the elite. The Monarchs are nice also, but don't believe there is a noticeable difference between the two.
 
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not intrested in the ziess I ask about the 4200 and the monarch. I found a brand new elite on ebay for 490 and a brand new monarch for 380. 
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Originally posted by lucytuma lucytuma wrote:

My opinion would be to go with the 4200, while I believe they're a toss up optically, the bushnell offers you rain guard and a free jacket.

 
that's it in a nutshell
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Doesn't the Monarch have more eye relief than the 4200?
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I have a 4200 on a 300 WBY , 338 Win mag, 300 RUM , and a 45/70 loaded up with Buffalo Bore stuff...Eye relief has never been an issue
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martin didn't mean to imply 4200 eye relief was bad just giving information to be considered for an informed purchase. Another issue to be considered is Monarch is 42 and the 4200 is 40 mm obj lens. I like both and would choose based on which is better priced.
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I`ve owned a 3x9 4200 and currently have a 2.5-8x28 Monarch EER scout. And you know wanna know something? I really can`t tell the damn difference.
 
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Flip a coin!..Pick daisies; 4200, Monarch, 4200, Monarch. When you get to the last daisy, that`s the scope you pick.........Clown
 
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It is a toss up based on all I've been able to see. Which ever one offers what options you are looking for at the most reasonable price is the winner.
I will say though that warranty is also something to look at. Bushnell takes that contest.
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I second what trigger said!  check out the samplelist.com!
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If you want to go the ebay route then search for SWFA, and then look at their store there.
Happy bidding.
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Originally posted by Big Squeeze Big Squeeze wrote:

I`ve owned a 3x9 4200 and currently have a 2.5-8x28 Monarch EER scout. And you know wanna know something? I really can`t tell the damn difference.
 
My eye balls are really good too!Shocked
Flip a coin!..Pick daisies; 4200, Monarch, 4200, Monarch. When you get to the last daisy, that`s the scope you pick.........Clown
 
what did i tell you squeeze?
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Can anyone weigh in on which company might have an advantage in customer service....or are they about the same? 
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bushnells is better

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Oooh, since judging a quality difference between the two is really a tossup - maybe the free rain jacket you get with the 4200 will push you over the edge. Yippee

....said with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

I don't think you can go wrong with either; however, and this is anecdotal evidence here... , I've seen more positive posts on the Internet about the 4200 line than on the monarch line in recent months.
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Optcially speaking they are equally close. I would chose the Nikon since it offers more eye relief.  Aesthetically speaking and features involved becomes a personal choice.

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i have a monarch 6.5-20, and a 4200 6-24X40. both are great scopes. my nikon has a little more adjustment than my elite.
 
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 They don't have to give jackets away to sell Monarchs ... if a company has to give freebie crap to get buyers ... does'nt that tell ya something ?  Just my opinion .....  Light%20It%20Up
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Originally posted by mercenary1947 mercenary1947 wrote:

 They don't have to give jackets away to sell Monarchs ... if a company has to give freebie crap to get buyers ... does'nt that tell ya something ?  Just my opinion .....  Light%20It%20Up
I agree 100% and I bought a Nikon Monarch after going to the local sporting goods and after looking through both scopes to me the Nikon had clearer optics. I just recently joined this forum but I came hear alot to read the opinions of others and it seems to me there our quite a few people here who drink the Bushnell Koolaide.Elite
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Originally posted by cassml1 cassml1 wrote:

Originally posted by mercenary1947 mercenary1947 wrote:

 They don't have to give jackets away to sell Monarchs ... if a company has to give freebie crap to get buyers ... does'nt that tell ya something ?  Just my opinion .....  Light%20It%20Up
I agree 100% and I bought a Nikon Monarch after going to the local sporting goods and after looking through both scopes to me the Nikon had clearer optics. I just recently joined this forum but I came hear alot to read the opinions of others and it seems to me there our quite a few people here who drink the Bushnell Koolaide.Elite
KOOLAIDE????? Loco
Nikons are nice there's no doubt, and those who own Bushnells appreciate them both.
Then there's those that suffer from "NIKONITIS" just as those that suffer from "GOLD RING THING" They can rarely (if ever) appreciate anything else.
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  I have had the displeasure of dealing with Nikon's CS about 18 months ago ..It was miserable.. They sent me a bill to repair a 3 week old Monarch with a point of impact that wondered horizontally..Took 3 months of multiple left messages and emails for "Ed "from Nikon to finally get back to me and agree Nikon would cover it .  6 weeks later I got it back with a new scratch. It does work fine now, and hopefully that was a "one off", but sure didn't invoke allot of confidence in me in Nikon. I do still have several, but wouldn't step up to another if an equally or better priced option presented intself.

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Originally posted by cassml1 cassml1 wrote:

...few people here who drink the Bushnell Koolaide.Elite

I hope I'm not being lumped in there with my quip about the free jacket...Big%20Grin

BTW, the scope ratings HERE on opticstalk rate the 4200 equal with the Monarch.

That being said - I have a Monarch.

...I also have an Elite 3000 I hate.

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I put a monarch on a 300 mag this summer and it has been superb. Mine showed up and my buddy looked through it and ordered one and put it on his 7 mag. He loves it. I killed a sheep with it this fall after carrying it in a scabbard and on a backpack for 3 weeks and I really like it. I think the 4200 is good too but my preference is the monarch.
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