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Winchester model 70 ultimate shadow vs Savage model 111 long range hunter chamberd in 300 win mag???
the savage is a bit more pricey but is it worth it? looking to shoot out to 800m and hunt to 500m.  
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i agree but only if the price is right and for the common man the price is never right so u best option is to stand tall be cool and have a nice day!! Howdy
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Originally posted by pmac36 pmac36 wrote:



i agree but only if the price is right and for the common man the price is never right so u best option is to stand tall be cool and have a nice day!! Howdy


I got no info on what rifle is best. But what the heck is your post suppose to mean pmac? How did that help him? U agree with what? And what does stamding tall have to do with anything?
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If this is just a hunting rig I like the 300 WSM on the model 70 but I also roll my own ammo.
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It will be a hunting rifle as well as my long range target shooting rifle???
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I would use neither for a long range match shooter. Need something with more beef in the barrel. Both calibers are fine for 1K but you'd cook the barrel firing 20 round in 20 minutes.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

Originally posted by pmac36 pmac36 wrote:



i agree but only if the price is right and for the common man the price is never right so u best option is to stand tall be cool and have a nice day!! Howdy


I got no info on what rifle is best. But what the heck is your post suppose to mean pmac? How did that help him? U agree with what? And what does stamding tall have to do with anything?
                 i agree that the savage maybe pricey, thats all, freak n hell "supertool" calm down, i just posted a reply, and not thats it any of concern but standing tall means to stand straight and keep u head up and u will reach your desired goal!!!! ps refrain from quoting me thank u, and may u not have a pleasant eve sir!Mouth Taped Shut
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PMAC, chill.
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I feel like I just got rebuked by Fez from that 70's show.  I said good day sir, I said good day.  Nice burn PMAC

I agree with the not the best long range target rifle.  I have a 300 WSM with a small profile barrel and 3 to 4 shots and the POI starts to shift. Even at 100 yards the shift is pretty bad so at 500 to 800 yards it could be huge.  That much powder heats up the barrel mighty fast.  Doesn't mean is won't be accurate just not for very many rounds in a row. 
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i do beg your pardon guys, but u know i cant stay mad at u "supertool" your my "lucky penny"! do have a good day sir!!     sorry carry on guys......Whistling
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If your hunting involves a lot of walking the Winchester Ultimate Shadow has the weight advantage by over a pound.  If accuracy is more important than weight my money would be on the Savage and the AccuTrigger is exceptional for a factory trigger.  As already mentioned neither is ideal for long range because of the relatively light barrels.  I have a current production .308 Savage Precision Carbine with 20" heavy barrel, AccuStock and AccuTrigger that consistently delivers half inch 200 yard five shot groups with my hand loads.  I don't own a current production model 70 yet but a Featherweight in 7mm-08 or .280 if ever offered is on my wish list.
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