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As you may or may not know on Nov. 9th what appeared to be a missle was spotted in the sky off the coast of Los Angeles.  I was amazed at the lack of media coverage for such a huge story.  The first day no one knew anything and the officials offered no explanation other than they don't know what it was either, then a few days later they claimed it was a contrail from an airplane.  Many speculated but this is the first real story that I have read that makes sense.
 

Wayne Madsen: China Fired Missile Seen In Southern California

Wayne Madsen Report
November 10, 2010

Pentagon and its embedded media covering up Chinese show of force off LA

China flexed its military muscle Monday evening in the skies west of Los Angeles when a Chinese Navy Jin class ballistic missile nuclear submarine, deployed secretly from its underground home base on the south coast of Hainan island, launched an intercontinental ballistic missile from international waters off the southern California coast. WMR’s intelligence sources in Asia, including Japan, say the belief by the military commands in Asia and the intelligence services is that the Chinese decided to demonstrate to the United States its capabilities on the eve of the G-20 Summit in Seoul and the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Tokyo, where President Obama is scheduled to attend during his ten-day trip to Asia.

The reported Chinese missile test off Los Angeles came as a double blow to Obama. The day after the missile firing, China’s leading credit rating agency, Dagong Global Credit Rating, downgraded sovereign debt rating of the United States to A-plus from AA. The missile demonstration coupled with the downgrading of the United States financial grade represents a military and financial show of force by Beijing to Washington.

The Pentagon spin machine, backed by the media reporters who regularly cover the Defense Department, as well as officials of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), and the U.S. Northern Command, is now spinning various conspiracy theories, including describing the missile plume videotaped by KCBS news helicopter cameraman Gil Leyvas at around 5:00 pm Pacific Standard Time, during the height of evening rush hour, as the condensation trail from a jet aircraft. Other Pentagon-inspired cover stories are that the missile was actually an amateur rocket or an optical illusion.

Experts agree that this was a ballistic missile being fired off of Los Angeles. Pentagon insists it was a jet aircraft or model rocket.

There are no records of a plane in the area having taken off from Los Angeles International Airport or from  other airports in the region. The Navy and Air Force have said that they were not conducting any missile tests from submarines, ships, or Vandenberg Air Force Base. The Navy has also ruled out an accidental firing from one of its own submarines.

Missile experts, including those from Jane’s in London, say the plume was definitely from a missile, possibly launched from a submarine. WMR has learned that the missile was likely a  JL-2 ICBM, which has a range of 7,000 miles, and was fired in a northwesterly direction over the Pacific and away from U.S. territory from a Jin class submarine. The Jin class can carry up to twelve such missiles.

Navy sources have revealed that the missile may have impacted on Chinese territory and that the National Security Agency (NSA) likely posseses intercepts of Chinese telemtry signals during the missile firing and subsequent testing operations.

Japanese and other Asian intelligence agencies believe that a Chinese Jin-class SSBN submarine conducted missile “show of force” in skies west of Los Angeles.

Asian intelligence sources believe the submarine transited from its base on Hainan through South Pacific waters, where U.S. anti-submarine warfare detection capabilities are not as effective as they are in the northern and mid-Pacific, and then transited north to waters off of Los Angeles. The Pentagon, which has spent billions on ballistic missile defense systems, a pet project of former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, is clearly embarrassed over the Chinese show of strength.

Likely route of Jin-class submarine from Hainan base.

The White House also wants to donwplay the missile story before Presidnet Obama meets with his Chinese counterpart in Seoul and Tokyo. According to Japanese intelligence sources, Beijing has been angry over United States and allied naval exercises in the South China and Yellow Seas, in what China considers its sphere of influence, and the missile firing within the view of people in Southern California was a demonstration that China’s navy can also play in waters off the American coast.

For the U.S. Navy, the Chinese show of force is a huge embarassment, especially for the Navy’s Pacific Command in Pearl Harbor, where Japan’s December 7, 1941 attack on the fleet at Pearl Harbor remains a sore subject.

In 2002, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice reportedly scolded visiting Chinese General Xiong Guankai, the deputy chief of staff for intelligence of the People’s Liberation Army, for remarks he allegedly made in 1995 that China would use nuclear weapons on Los Angeles. Xiong denied he made any such comments but the “spin” on the story helped convince Congress to sink billions of additional dollars into  ballistic missile defense, sometimes referred to at “Star Wars II.”

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Link to story.
 
Read the comments after it too.
 
 
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Pretty crazy stuff.
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Wow, i'm not sure whats scarier, the missile from nowhere or the comments following the article. 

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Originally posted by scooter65 scooter65 wrote:

Wow, i'm not sure whats scarier, the missile from nowhere or the comments following the article. 

Without question the comments and the obamuslim spin are all but terriorizing. The show of force and the US credit dropping to A+ is going to put us on the fast track to National bankruptcy. The other lender nations will act fast to follow suit before we can get someone else in office who "Might" know how to lead our Nation out of this hole. I hope changing congress in Nov was soon enough. Time will tell but, sadly it won't take much time for us to see if it was enough. obamuslim knows he can stall congress for the next two yrs. which will be plenty of time for his controlers to finish wrecking America. We need to some how impeach the puppet before June. That may not do alot of good though. biden won't know what to do and the Nation doesn't need that either. I'll be glad when Christ gets here. I really don't want to be here when our nation falls.
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Some of the comments point to other sites that have documents showing that the U.S. warned boats to stay out of that area ahead of time due to missile testing, they did not say who was testing though.  The speculation is that we knew they were there and what they were going to do, which was test their ICBM.  They could not launch it from China to here so they launched it from here to China, so it was not only a show of force but a successful test.
 
The bad part is the quick denial and case closed in one day by the U.S. Government.  That proves they knew what it was because if they truly didn't they would still be investigating.  Too many experts have said what it was beyond a shadow of a doubt, even novices pointed out many of the attributes like the larger plume close to the ground then the point where it changed headings after stabilizing.
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Originally posted by scooter65 scooter65 wrote:

Wow, i'm not sure whats scarier, the missile from nowhere or the comments following the article. 

+1. both pretty damn scary.
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

" Look into that teleprompter and just read what it says.....it's easy. Then you can go and play some golf. "   
 
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Sadly thats about the truth
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Don't forget about this from a few years ago.
 
The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html#ixzz15egtJUkT
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What gets me is all the things the American Public doesn't hear about that is going on that is a concern.  I know they tend to do what is "best" as far as not creating panic but to think about all the things that are hidden from us is crazy.

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Well, if their missiles are as good as most of their optics, we probably dont have much to worry about anywayWink
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Originally posted by tman1965 tman1965 wrote:

Well, if their missiles are as good as most of their optics, we probably dont have much to worry about anywayWink
Probably explains why it went out to sea rather than inland.
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