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Ok guys, anyone have any experience with Minox riflescopes? Especially the Z5 variation. Im looking at a 4-20 model. Thanks in advance.
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im interested in Minox also
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The Minox ZA5 has been compared glass wise to the Zeiss conquest on multiple occations.  The mechanics of them had initial problems but that has since passed and all seem pretty happy with them now.  I know they have great customer service and stand behind their products.
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I recently acquired a Minox ZA3 3-9 x40 from SWFA. It is by far the best money I have ever spent for a hunting scope. I also have Zeiss Conquest and Kahles CL Multi-Zero and some others.  I find the optics a little brighter than the Conquest and the eyebox is much more forgiving to me. The eye relief is very long which is perfect for me. The tracking on this scope was at least as good as the Conquest that I have. The Kahles is better, but not so much so that I would buy another with the price difference like it is.

I don't think you will be disappointed with a Minox.

I am sure that a ZA5 will be in my near future.

Jack
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I have several Minox,I like the 4-20 best as they work great as my .22lr scopes of choice.The 4-20 is the only one in their line that is 1/8 MOA turrets.As said above they had a few  problems early on but  all has been solved.
 
I had a turret[parralex] problem last year,I sent it back on a Tues,by the following Friday I had a brand new scope.Excellent CS,comes with a life time warrenty.
 
The glass is as good as it gets under $1k.Also i'ts assembeled here in the USA.


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I have some mileage with ZA-3 3-9x40, ZA-5 1.5-8x32, ZA-5 3-15x50 and ZA-5 4-20x50.

All have been uniformly excellent in my experience.

ILya
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i have one of their spotting scopes, and it has excellend build quality
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have some mileage with ZA-3 3-9x40, ZA-5 1.5-8x32, ZA-5 3-15x50 and ZA-5 4-20x50.

All have been uniformly excellent in my experience.

ILya
how would you compare the brightness and clarity on your ZA-5 3-15x50 ........to a zeiss conquest
3.5-10x50 i read in a post where the ZA-5 is a tad brighter at low light if this is the case i may check the ZA-5  out
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Originally posted by tedster tedster wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have some mileage with ZA-3 3-9x40, ZA-5 1.5-8x32, ZA-5 3-15x50 and ZA-5 4-20x50.

All have been uniformly excellent in my experience.

ILya
how would you compare the brightness and clarity on your ZA-5 3-15x50 ........to a zeiss conquest
3.5-10x50 i read in a post where the ZA-5 is a tad brighter at low light if this is the case i may check the ZA-5  out

I am not really sure how to compare brightness since I have a hard time defining it.  I did write a lengthy article that compares similarly configured Conquest and Minox a while back.  Perhaps it can be of use to you:


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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by tedster tedster wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have some mileage with ZA-3 3-9x40, ZA-5 1.5-8x32, ZA-5 3-15x50 and ZA-5 4-20x50.

All have been uniformly excellent in my experience.

ILya
how would you compare the brightness and clarity on your ZA-5 3-15x50 ........to a zeiss conquest
3.5-10x50 i read in a post where the ZA-5 is a tad brighter at low light if this is the case i may check the ZA-5  out

I am not really sure how to compare brightness since I have a hard time defining it.  I did write a lengthy article that compares similarly configured Conquest and Minox a while back.  Perhaps it can be of use to you:


ILya
Thanks koshkin all help is appreciated
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have some mileage with ZA-3 3-9x40, ZA-5 1.5-8x32, ZA-5 3-15x50 and ZA-5 4-20x50.

The Minox ZA-5 1.5-8x32 looks very interesting... However, which reticle should be better for fast target acquisition, the German #4 or the Versa-Plex? I assume the #4 will be better for low-light?
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Originally posted by atp atp wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I have some mileage with ZA-3 3-9x40, ZA-5 1.5-8x32, ZA-5 3-15x50 and ZA-5 4-20x50.

The Minox ZA-5 1.5-8x32 looks very interesting... However, which reticle should be better for fast target acquisition, the German #4 or the Versa-Plex? I assume the #4 will be better for low-light?

This one gets tough.  Minox' verison of #4 reticle has a very wide center opening, so while it is a little bolder than Versa-Plex, I am not convinced it is more visible.

I have both and overall i slightly prefer Versa-Plex (but I generally like circle reticles).

ILya
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I ordered one off of the Sample List this week.  ZA5 2-10x40.
 
First, the optical quality was excellent.  Exactly what I expected from Minox and more than I would have expected at that price point.
 
A note here, the scope was sold to me at $320 for being in Demo-A condition.  I honestly could say that there wasn't a single scratch, mark, or discoloration on that.  Why it wasn't being sold as NIB, I don't know. 
 
I really liked the shape, feel, and light weight of the Minox.  The magnification ring was excellent.  Very positive and easy to move with the rubber coverign.  The turrets were very tall however, which did not suit my tastes.
 
I ended up returning the scope, though.  Two reasons:  The eye relief was way longer than I am used to.  It would be great on hard kickers, but it's going on a 7mm/08.  Second reason was the eyebox was extremely critical.  I "mounted" it to a spare stock I have laying around with styrofoam replacing the action and surgical tubing serving as the rings.  It's actually a very good way to test scopes in case you have the inkling you might be sending them back.  I had heard the eye relief and eyebox were tricky for some, so I did this to see how I would like it.
 
I returned it for the Zeiss Conquest, which SWFA had back to me the day after they recieved my order!!!  At no extra charge for the quick shipping.
 
Personally, I like the 3x9 Conquest better.  I feel that the reticle is thicker and darker, the eye relief more standard and the eyebox is more forgiving.  It is however heavier and the mag ring isn't as nice in my opinion.
 
If you can handle the eyebox issue and eye relief of the Minox, I think it would be a good scope, especially off of the sample list for $320.  Optically, I couldn't tell a difference.  I did like the adjustments more, but the turrets were taller.  Physically, the Minox was a near clone of the Burris FFII 3-9x40.  It seemed very close in dimension and weight to it.
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