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I'm putting together a lightweight hunting rifle for use during my high mountain elk, deer, and possibly bear hunting trips in Colorado. I've got the rifle narrowed down to a LH Tikka T3 Lite in 7mm mag. (Tikka are one of few that build a decently lightweight left hand rifle that doesn't cost a small fortune, for any of you southpaws out there looking)

I've been all over the map trying to decide what scope to put on this rifle. Sticking with the theme of lightweight, I'd also like enough eye relief that's pretty forgiving as I'll be shooting for a number of different positions. All in as near a 40mm objective as possible, I've considered the Leupold VX-6, Bushnell elite, Conquest, Minox and a number of others. On paper, I keep getting drawn back to the Minox. It seems to have almost everything I want in a scope, but I'm concerned that the eye relief may not be forgiving enough and I don't want to regret passing up the conquest which seems to be the standard by which all others are judged for an overall quality piece of optics. If I get a 3x erector, it has to be a 3-9, and I don't see myself taking long enough shots to require top end magnification higher than 12, but I don't want bottom end magnification to be higher than 3.

Does anyone have any hands on experience with the Minox ZA-5 2-10x40 that can give me their opinion for my application?

Thanks in advance,

Ryan
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i think the minox will serve you well. good luck!
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Thanks Pyro.
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your welcome, you sound like  you think a lot like i do. im the same way. i shoot magnums pretty much exclusively and yet i dont use anything more than a 3x9 myself. ive used the conquest, and it really liked it. i still own a 4200 elite and its seen service on a .375H&H as well as a .300wby. never had enough coin jingling in my pocket to touch a vx6 or a minox. both are excellent scopes though.
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I'm never going to be someone that's taking 800 yard shots at anything bigger than a coyote in the field. That's just not my style. I prefer to stalk and get closer. This 7 mag will be my first mag. I've previously always hunted with my trusty old Savage 110 in .270 win. But then, I've previously always hunted at elevations of ~4000' and elevation changes of +/- 500'. Since I've moved to CO, I've just found that that old savage is more weight than I'd like to carry for +/-1500' changes at 10000'+. Plus it's right bolt and I've always wanted left bolt since I shoot lefty.

I think I'm probably over thinking it, but I don't like buying things twice. I'm sure any scope I've considered would do the job as well or better than I'm capable of.

My best friend's brother has a 375H&H. I wouldn't mind having one someday.
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If you don't like buying things twice, then why not go with the Conquest or VX3?  I have the VX3 CDS on my 7mags and they are super, on par optically with my Conquest.  
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JGRaider, the answer to your question goes back to my probably over thinking the situation. But, one of the things that drew me back to the Minox over the Leupold was the availability of the #4 reticle. My best friend has a vxiii on his 7mag and he loves it. I'm sure I wouldn't go wrong with it, but I'm trying to explore all of my options. I haven't necessarily ruled out the VX3 but the Minox appears to be a better deal.

The Conquest is definitely still in consideration. Especially since SWFA has the 3-9x40 with #4 reticle at $349 right now.

Thanks for the suggestions. I've still got time to make a decision and I'm glad to go back over my options and see if I still draw the same conclusions.
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I have owned all the scopes mention & you really can't go wrong with any of them but I will share what I think are the short commings:
 
Zeiss has a small mag eye box
 
Minox has mushy turrets[I still own 2]
 
Elite 6500 I blew the glass on my 26th  round on my T/C 460 mag.[even though it suppose to be able to handle a 50 cal]In all honesty ,they did send me a brand new scope within 10 days!
 
Swaro best glass of the entire group & about the best at holding it's value.
 
One other thing is consider a high end scope off the SWFA sample list,they have some killer deals & the best CS in the business.
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Thanks for the suggestions.

The more I think about this, the more I'm leaning toward limiting myself to a little more reasonable budget, maybe <$500. I do have some other wants outside of the scope (new binos, reloading equipment, new pistol) and if I blow it all on a scope right now I'll have to make some sacrifices in other areas. Besides, I'm sure if I ever decide to spring for some nice European glass, I'll find another gun to put this scope on top of.

I know $500 really prices a lot of what I've looked at out of the game, but I really don't think I'll regret saving that money now.

Stickbow, other than mushy turrets, have you noticed any other issues with the minox's? I've read reports of the early versions of the za5 having flare issues and very unforgiving eye relief. I haven't seen too many recent reports, good or bad, though.

I don't adjust turrets in the field. Once I set zero, I leave it.

Thanks,

Ryan
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Just in case you haven't seen these deals.

 
 
 
 
I know you said you were looking at the #4 reticle, the rapid z may peak your interest.  The big sky is still a good deal, a bit lighter than some of the other scopes mentioned as well. 
 
 I got a deal on two minox scopes and kept them due to the glass, I have not spend a great deal of time with them, but was very impressed, found no issues with either scope yet.  I purchased one of the big sky's linked above and it is nice glass, but IMO not as nice as the minox, but a very solid scope.  I am considering purchasing the conquest so I may compare the next level of optics to what I own.  All in all any of the scopes you mentioned should do well, it will just be your preference that matters.
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Love my conquest. I've not noticed any eye box Issues though I'm using a 4.5-14x50. To the untrained eye, I'd doubt you could tell it apart from a Z3 Swaro.
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Originally posted by Fredfrankbob Fredfrankbob wrote:

Just in case you haven't seen these deals.

 
 
 
 
I know you said you were looking at the #4 reticle, the rapid z may peak your interest.  The big sky is still a good deal, a bit lighter than some of the other scopes mentioned as well. 
 
 I got a deal on two minox scopes and kept them due to the glass, I have not spend a great deal of time with them, but was very impressed, found no issues with either scope yet.  I purchased one of the big sky's linked above and it is nice glass, but IMO not as nice as the minox, but a very solid scope.  I am considering purchasing the conquest so I may compare the next level of optics to what I own.  All in all any of the scopes you mentioned should do well, it will just be your preference that matters.


I did notice the Zeiss deals and, honestly, I've just about talked myself into the 3-9x40 #4.

I'm not interested in the rapid z, but that's a screaming deal. I set my rifles up for a MPBR shot and don't shoot long distances in the field.

Thanks for the links. :)
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Originally posted by Laserrs Laserrs wrote:

Love my conquest. I've not noticed any eye box Issues though I'm using a 4.5-14x50. To the untrained eye, I'd doubt you could tell it apart from a Z3 Swaro.


Thanks for your impressions on the Zeiss. I haven't found a bad review yet.

That's definitely a contributing factor for me. I just can't see there being a $500 delta between them, for me. My eye is definitely what you would call untrained.
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Go with the Zeiss & buy a set of light weight one piece Talley rings & don't look back Smile
 
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Number 4 is by far my favorite hunting reticle... The deal on the Conquest is so good I just talked myself into one.
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747 I think you just talked yourself into a new rifle [:}
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Well I have been wanting a 7-08 for awhile now....
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Originally posted by stickbow46 stickbow46 wrote:



Go with the Zeiss & buy a set of light weight one piece Talley rings & don't look back Smile
 
Decision Made....Merry ChristmasChristmas List


The Talley rings were decided on weeks ago, ironically.
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Thanks for the help, everyone.

I think I'm going to take one more trip down to the big box store and see if I can have a look through a 3-9x40 conquest.
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That Conquest is a no brainer IMO.  
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A Tikka 7mag, sporting a Zeiss conquest in a set of Talley lightweights. I'm thinking that would be a tough act to follow! 
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That's what I'm hoping.
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:)

Supposed to be a smiley in that last post. Guess I'm not smart enough to figure out the smilies on here yet. lol.
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