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Min. mag. to see .22 hole at 50 & 100?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/03/2005 at 13:58
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  Three questions:

Assuming pretty good - not necessarily fantastic optics, what is the minimun magnification that would let me see .22 cal. holes on the range at 50?

Wthe same optics what is the minimun magnification that would let me see .22 cal. holes on the range at 100 yrd.s?

What do you consider the maximun magnification you can use effectively shooting off hand up to 50 yrd.s?  (that's shooting unsupported... I'm not into self multilation)
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/04/2005 at 09:55
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Seeing isn't a problem as much as resolving. A 4x will see the holes but a 9x allows one to see the relationship of the holes to each other-at 50. At 100 a 9x will see the holes but a 20x allows the resolution to make decisions-say in the area of load workup. A 10-12x works very well at 100 yards. Off hand shooting depends-precision or just hitting the target. A close focus 6.5X20 works very well at 50 yards for 22. That is why they are still a catalog item for leo. The problem is more of a shooter fatique. How long are you willing to hold the shoot until everything is perfect? Mastering the art of pushing the shot off as it passes through the exact point on the target you are trying to cluster is what the game is all about. Shooting off hand at say an 8in to 20 inch plate to 600-800 yards as in long range silhoute shooting, all that is necessary is the cross hair on the metal while the shot is pushed through the target (mentally). 20x works very well and because you are not shooting prone (or off a hot pickup hood), mirage is not a problem most of the time. Last but not least it depends on the shooter, hand wobble as seen through the scope by the shooter is more of an irritant to some than others. (Will someone tell that damn target to hold still??!!).
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)     Back to Top Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/04/2005 at 14:55
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Thanks for the input Dale.  I want to be able to shoot well off the bench and off hand to at least 50 yrds.  I'm getting closer.  I've short listed these:

Leupold 6-20-40 VX-III EFR Min 10 M AO E.F.R. 1/4  (too much mag?)
Bushnell 4200 4-16x40 min. 10yrd.s AO 1/4  (that much better than 4200)
Bushnell 3200 5-15x40 10yrd.s AO 1/4
Burris 4-12x32 Mini 7 yrd.s AO 1/8
Two gunsmiths have cringed at mounting the Burris saying the turret location frequently  makes them a pain to mount.  Noone has criticised the quality for the purpose.

Whaduhyah think?

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