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There isn't a lot of mention about Millett scopes here and I'm wondering if there is a reason...;-)

I just got my first decent scopes not too long ago...a Nikon Monarch 4-16x42 and a Sightron SII 3-12x42. Got the Monarch in the low $300 range and the Sightron n the low $200. I like the clarity/brightness and that there is a little play in the sweet spot -- some of the lesser scopes I've owned you have a millimeter in any direction before you start getting wonky views. I do have some less expensive scopes that do an OK job though. Like I have a TASCO Silver Antler, which beside the turret directions being backwards, is actually not too bad for short shooting -- especially considering the cost. Mostly I just shoot targets, but I'll hunt 30-40 yards occasionally for varmints. I like being able to really see what I'm aiming at. I mean, I'm a little silly -- got a BSA 36x44 just to see how it stacks up...the price was right.

I see the Millett goes for a wide range of prices depending on the model, but I can get the 4-16x56 30mm with side-focus for $178 including shipping. BK30732

Has anyone actually used one of these scopes? Used a Millett? What are the specific drawbacks in comparison to the Monarch or Sightron?

I know people on these forums are high on the Bushnell 4200s in the mid-lower range of scope pricing considered 'decent'. I see people talking about Nikon Pro Staff and that they might even bend to a Bushnell 3200 in a pinch. How does the Millett stack up in your collective opinions?

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Look up the Millett TRS, it is the tactical version of the Millett Buck Gold and there are a lot more reviews and opinions out there to read. 

From what I've read on them the past 6 months off and on....they are pretty good for the money, some of the best China made scopes.  They are sometimes off and on and around the web you will people reporting mushy turrets or something like that.  The optical quality is at their price range - not as good as Monarch, Elite 4200, Sightron II, Vortex Viper, Weaver Grand Slam & Classic V series, etc.

They got bought out by Bushnell not too long ago and customer service goes straight to Bushnell. 

I think they seem like $250 scopes with features that make them better than most of the others in the price range.  They have a more durable reputation than pretty much all the other China scopes from my findings...people say it is because they are tested each and every one.
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" As of 2009, all Millett scopes are 100% computer tested to assure the highest quality control."   -  From the millettsights.com website
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Funny...read some reviews of the TRS-1 that were glowing and did find a few for the Gold Buck that suggest the glass leaves a lot to be desired. I don't know if that is just people who are used to leica and zeiss throwing apples at a scope 1/10th the price though. One review actually mentioned comparing it to a $1700 scope.

Thanks for your input. I'm sorta torn on the 'computer testing' as it really would matter what they are testing for...and a computer sensor is not much like a human eye.
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This is from Steve...guy who designed the Millett's TRS and LRS 

"The scope is mounted using a ring type mount.

the crosshairs are aligned to marks on the computer montor.

the scope is focused to the best sharpness.

the scope is then impact tested at least 100 rounds with recoil and vibration equal to a 3006. the scope is then tested to see if it held zero by the computer.

The scope is then tested for accuracy and movement of the elevation and windage. "boxing the scope" by movement of the crosshairs to the full movement of the scope.

Scope is fired again for at least 100 shots and it is checked to see if it held 0.

The computer checks all the points of the tests.

As far as we know Millett has the most complete computer testing system for scopes."
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I wouldn't worry about it...from all I've heard and read they are optically in their price range and the LRS seems to be a tiny bit better than it's price range...some say the TRS also has improved glass from when they came out over a year ago.

Most important, I think, is the durability.  People seem like they are Scope Connesuirs and are usually just after the finest glass possible, but we can not forget they are gun sights first and foremost.  A lot of people report them being on heavy recoil, long distance rigs for a long time and holding in there strong and tight.

Through the scope pictures, or reticle pictures, that people take and put online for others to see are dumbed down versions of how much clarity and resolution a scope has.  Even still I've seen plenty of pictures from the Millett/Buck Gold and LRS series at 1,000 yards or more and even being dumbed down online pictures there was plenty of resolution and clarity to make a shot.

Even the $200 Vortex Crossfire scopes seem to have enough clarity and resolution for long distance...I know I wouldn't spend $800-1500 more just to make it even more pretty though the scope.  I think durability and well implemented features are the only things making a scope worth over $600.

My $85 Nikon Action binoculars are just as good to me optically as some expensive riflescopes I looked at last week costing 10x more.

I understand being a connesuir though.  We don't mind spend extra on things if its our passion....like a little bit bigger TV for movies at home even if its $300 more.  We would of been just as happy with the slightly smaller TV.
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Yeah, I think there is no way for me to determine by hashing out without trying them. I'm pretty confident that the Nikon and Sightron are good scopes, so I have an idea what is acceptable. I'll just have to try one out and if it blows, I can return it and take a wash on shipping. But I expect I'll keep it and ebay some of these lesser scopes that came in deals and packages.

Thanks for the help.
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Did actually get one of these Millett 4-16x56 scopes, and it just arrived. for about half the price of a Nikon Monarch 4-16x42 it seems to have some nice clarity and features. focus is nice and smooth. Monarch's reticle is a lot nicer but the Millett includes high turrets and a shade (not an extra like on the Monarch). We'll see how the Millett holds up, but it looks good out of the box!
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