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Hi ,
I am lloking for information about NP-R1 reticle of Nightforce series
 
which advantatges does it has?
why do poeple say NP-R1 is by far best than a mildot?
 
thanks a lot
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NP-1R is an MOA-based reticle, the mil dot is a mil-based reticle.

Some would say it is easier to accurately range with a hash-mark reticle than a dot reticle.

The dot reticles predate etched reticles and were once, in the long ago, an actual wire with dots on them, hashes are newer than that (and weren't do-able on a wire.)

I like both.  I would contend that ranging accurately is easier with hashes than dots.
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For me what I like about the NP-R1 is that the marks are 1MOA apart at the highest mag. Plus if you use it at different mag you still have an idea of what distance the marks are apart. On the 5-22x for example, the marks are 1MOA at 22x, 2MOA at 11x and 4MOA at 5.5x. Or if I remember correctly you were looking at the 8-32 which would be 1 MOA at 32x, 2MOA at 16x and 4MOA at 8x.

But in the end I think it is what is easiest for you.
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personally I llike the np-r2 more, it is not as busy, but gives up nothing in ranging to the np-r1. It has  30 moa built into the reticle, if you want to zero at the top marker it will get you 1000 yds with just holdover, with the "cross hairs" at 10 moa, this is about 500 yds with many 308 loads. Of course mildot reticles can be used in the same way, it just not as easy. If you want to zero at the cross hairs and shoot 500 yds, dial, in to 5 and hold on five, there is about any combo you want. If you want to calibrate the reticle to hashs = yds. get nightforce's ballistic program which is set up for their reticles.

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+1 on the NP-R2 reticule. Knowing what I know now I would have gone with the NP-R2 reticule and did on later NF purchases.
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are you going to get MOA knobs? if your getting MOA knobs then the mildot shouldnt even be a consideration when you have 2 MOA reticles available. as mentioned the NPR1 does look busy compared to the NPR2, but when it comes to holds the NPR1 is going to shine because it will be that much more accurate.

coming from somebody who has owned a scope with every reticle NF makes, the MLR is my favorite. i had it back in the day before you could get matching MIL knobs but got rid of it because i didnt want a mixed system. once they released the MIL knob option i ordered a 3.5-15X50 with MIL knobs, MLR reticle, and zero stop. i also have the 3.5-15X50 with MOA knobs, NPR1 reticle, and zero stop, and just sold the same thing but NPR2, and just bought the F1 with MLR reticle and MIL knobs. the MOA/NPR1 will soon be replaced by another MIL/MLR one. you really should consider a MIL/MIL scope, and look hard at the MLR, so far ive found nothing more accurate for holdovers. dont use it for ranging much unless im bored and just want to mess around, lets face it LRF's rule the world now. so i cant comment to much on its ranging abilities.
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excellent answers. I can t find anywhere a precise and fast information about optics. In USA people know a lot of specialized information.
I go for a NP-R1 and MOA knops or MLR reticle and MIL/knops
 
I study the nighforce web
 
thanks very much
 
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the npr1 may a slight advantage in ranging but none in hold over as any difference in fine graduation can be done with the turret. if using a lrf the difference disappears. elevation numbers on nf only go to 10 (I think the newer ffp has larger steps however). the difficulty in finding fast and concise information, is due to its non-existence--- at some level the information will become subjective.

Edited by Dale Clifford - June/05/2009 at 07:55
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