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    Posted: December/28/2009 at 11:45
Looking at getting a scope for 200-600yd range hunting/target shooting and it seems to me that having a mildot reticle and turrets that adjust at .1 mil increments rather then 1/4 MOA would be easier to use.  I've been looking at 3/4x - 12/16x scopes in the $500 range (Nikon Monarch, Bushnell 4200, Sightron Big Sky, etc) and they all seem to offer Mildot reticles but not mil increment adjustment.   Are there any good scopes out there that offer both these options in the sub $500 category?



Edited for spelling in the title. I just couldn't stand it anymore...KB


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I'm a big fan of mil/mil (partially because it is in thousandths). However, what's important is matching your turrets to your reticle, so you could also go with a MOA-based reticle and probably find lots of options. A scope to consider is the Vortex Viper PST 4-16X50. It's more than you mentioned wanting to spend ($850) but it will be a solid scope and is also FFP (first focal plane). Under $500, I'll leave to others to recommend. If you can live with less magnification, consider the 3-9X Super Sniper for $600.
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Millit tactical series scopes offer the.1mil adjustment and under $500.00

A couple SS scopes offer .1MRAD adjustment and are by far the favorite tactical scope of many users on this forum. But less magnification
 
I think for what you looking for the price range has to go up to get a match for the mil/mil for the rectical and turrents.
 
 
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Hmmm....just saw the Falcon Menance 4x14 FFP scope on another site...seems to have what I'm looking for......never heard of those scopes before though.   Anyone know how these stack up to the other scopes I was considering before deciding I wanted mil/mil (Monarch, Viper, 4200)?
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haven't heard of them before, probably a reason for that too.......  i would stick with more name brand.  Most all reputable names are carried by SWFA
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Falcons aren't horrible scopes, but they aren't great either.  Thier models generally brought out a bit of positive feedback (tactical rifle forums) once introduced.  After about a year or so though the amount of failures started to increase and popularity has seemed to fall off somewhat.  Some still have thiers and have had no issues whatsoever.  Others now swear off the brand.
 
Not a horrible buy for the money, made in China IIRC.  You just need to remember that if you can get all the features in a $1600 optic at 1/4 of the price, you are generally compromising somewhere.
 
I'd save up and get the 3-9x SS.  From there it is a big price jump, but worth it to some. 
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I have a falcon 4-14 on top of my Grendel and although the quality control of the optic isn't 100%, it's a decent scope. For example the only thing I noticed was that the retile was about 1deg titled to the right when the scope was properly mounted.
 
It doesn't feel cheap and in fact is pretty solidly built and on the heavy side. Uppder zoom range (14x) is a "little" fuzzy but useable. For your price range it might be the best or only option.
 
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Nice stick, Jet!
 
I would suggest throwing anougher "hundo" in the mix and get the new SS 3-9x variable. I'm thrilled with mine.
Goes with an AR, like our friend's above, or a bolt gun with smooth transition.
FFP, mil dot, .1 mil clicks, low end of 3x for hunting.....your set!
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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Nice stick, Jet!
 
I would suggest throwing anougher "hundo" in the mix and get the new SS 3-9x variable. I'm thrilled with mine.
Goes with an AR, like our friend's above, or a bolt gun with smooth transition.
FFP, mil dot, .1 mil clicks, low end of 3x for hunting.....your set!
Thank you sir. Yes I would very much like the SS variable. That's definitely on the top of my consideration list. After checking out some glass at the ShotShow hopefully I can finalize my decision. I guess the SS scopes won't be on display? Of course it's the 'ol champagne taste and beer pocketbook thang that we must consider as well.  Wink
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Oh I can say with a high degree of certainty, that the SS Variable will be at SHOT show this year!
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If you cant drop another hundred to get to the Super Sniper 3-9x42 you  should 
 re-evaluate your need  look at 1/4moa click scopes and probably select a Leupold FX3  fixed 6x42 with long range duplex and order it from the Leupold Custom shop with a M1 knob or covered  target knob for elevation or use this with 1/8 moa clicks:
At least these willl hold up for you past the first use.


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I will throw my vote in for the SS Variable.  I love mine.  It is well worth the extra 100.
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SS variable gets my vote too!
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Some big news in this price range and above is the word is Leupold has decided to join the rest of us in the 21st century and offer .1 Mil clicks for their scopes (dubbed "M5" knobs).  There are a LOT of Leupolds out there with Mildot or TMR reticles (which is very nice BTW) that will become much more attractive with matching knobs.  I doubt they'll offer them on any of their cheaper scopes new, but for used scopes or ones ordered through their custom shop it's nice to finally have the choice.
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