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I am currently in the process of researching my next optics purchase.  I have a Leupold GR 8x32 that I use the majority of the time while hunting.  I also have a Bushnell Legend 12x50 that I keep in the car for all those times that "I wish I had a pair of binos".  I am looking for a good quality bino in the 10x range.
   
In all honesty, I am not sure that my eyes can see the nuanced differences between a $300 pair, a $1,000 pair, and a $2,000 pair.  I have very poor vision that is corrected by contacts, and I have looked through many different pairs of binos.  And either my eyes cannot see much of a difference or I am not looking for the right things.
 
However, I have experienced the headaches and nausea associated with a couple of hours behind a $300 pair (Leupold Cascade 10x42 to be specific).  I am curious as to what everyone's thoughts are regarding the relationship between cost and quality.  I would like a good pair of binos that perform in low light and offer a decently sharp image.  I am not too worried about splitting hairs regarding slight distortion, CA, etc.
 
I don't want to make a mountain out of a mole hill, but I also don't want to skimp and experience regret later.  Am I asking too much?
 
A couple of models that seem to be a nice compromise between cost and quality are:
 
Minox German BL 10x42 ($500)
Zeiss Conquest ABK 10x40 ($700 on sale)
Any other ideas?
 
Thanks in advance, Jake
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The Cascade should be good enough not to give you headaches "IF" they are collimated properly.  That is a pretty easy check.  Focus on a power line at least 100' away and back your eyes away from the lens taking care to keep the power line centered.  If the power line splits into a lower line on one side and a high line on the other, send them back or on for service.
 
There really is not much for poor binoculars in the $500 or less range and in fact most are way better than the price indicates they might be.  So short answer is that there is likely not going to be a lot of regret later.
 
If you live where you can look at a few and select the one you like, that is what I'd do.  Buy the one you like and go use it. Wink
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Thanks Steve.  I will have to check the collimation on my current binos.
 
Do you have any other checks that I should be aware of?  Could distortion possible cause nausea / headaches?  I assume the headaches and nausea are due to eye strain?
 
 
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As far as light transmission, is there much of a different between a $400 bino and an $800 bino?

 
I was looking hard at the Zeiss Conquest 10x40 ABK, but it appears to have considerable distortion:
 
 
 
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Originally posted by jakedeaver jakedeaver wrote:

Thanks Steve.  I will have to check the collimation on my current binos.
 
Do you have any other checks that I should be aware of?  Could distortion possible cause nausea / headaches?  I assume the headaches and nausea are due to eye strain?
 
 
Eye strain could well be linked to your nausea.  Keep in mind that as magnification increases so does the potential for eye strain.  A 10x simply has 20% more magnification and your biological optic system has to deal with that.  There is no way to predict how the individual human system will react to magnified views.  Your admitted eye sight deficiencies may well have an effect on the nausea as it relates to magnified images in general.  If you are more or less nausea free on the GR 8x32, that may be telling you something...like stick to 8x.  You might just for grins check out a good 7x binocular like the ZEN ED 3 7x43.  You are way better off with a little less magnification if you can use the binocular than you are with more magnification and come to find out you can't use it .
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If you're going to glass that much, find a comfortable pair of bins. Even if they cost more you only have one set of eyes. I don't use mine much so haven't needed alpha glass but have used friend's expensive Swaros once and it was a revelation how fatigue-less they can be.
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The last time I looked through a pair of Zeiss Conqest I was less than impressed, especially for the price.  I just purchased a set of Minox 8 x 24 BD compacts and I'm shocked at how good they are for the price.   As I stated in a different post, Minox has my attention and I am giving my next purchase their undivided attention.  I will also be checking out the Zen Ray Primes after I've read a few reviews and have seen the going price.
 
Good Luck.
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