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I have been looking for a new binocular for hunting and I think I have it narrowed down to either the Vortex razor or the meopta meostar in a 8X42 configuration.  I have looked at a lot of binoculars over the last two months and I really enjoy the view out of the meostars.  I was wondering how the razors compare to the meostars with respect to optics only. 

 

I notice the razors are a little lighter and I have read alot of positive posts about the razor.  I like how the swarovski EL fits in my hands but I cannot afford them and unfortunately no where within 150 miles of my house carries vortex.  Also, how are the eyecups on the razors, or what roof prism binocular do the eyecups compare too, I have looked through about every major brand...

 

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i've looked through the Razors at a local store. They even let me take them outside for 5 minutes.

The view is very bright, sharp, and wide, but the edge of the field of view is fuzzy. No harm there, as there is plenty of "sweet spot" in the middle of the field. The handling and balance were excelent.

However, the three samples that i handled had stiff focusers. I did not like the feel of them.

The eyecups on the Razor are similar in size and shape to my Swarovski EL. They are about 37 mm in diameter and slightly tappered. I immediately noticed this because feel and function of focuser are important to me for following birds (without thinking about or noticing the focuser), and size shape and feel of eyecups are important for stabilizing the binoculars against my face (the eyecups on the Zeiss FL and the Leupold GR are a disaster!). 

You need to know that Vortex Viper (about $400) is optically equal or superior to the Razor. At least that is what i tought. However, the Viper has sharp edged and narrow eyecups and stiff focuser as well.

As far as Meostar vs Razor goes and the split bridge advantage: the split bridge is really important in smaller binoculars, like the 32 mm series. On large binoculars there is plenty of room for grabbing. I've handled the 42 mm ELs and the Viper and i did not feel that the split bridge was all that important. However, on my favorite and everyday glass, the 8x32 EL, the split bridge made all the difference.

The Meostar is large and you should be able to handle it without problem. It is identical (almost) in shape weight and size to a Leica Trinovid. I've never looked through the 8x42.

 

What i call stiff focuser may very well be OK for you. 



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anweis, you were probably looking at a first generation Razor.  Vortex has improved the focuser so that it is no longer stiff on the new Razor.  The new Razor is stiffer than some bins I've handled, but I would hardly call it stiff anymore.  It is precise and fast, without any feeling of backlash or sloppiness.  I looked at the Viper recently and disagree that it's in the same class as the Razor; certainly it's not better, though it is a good value and has very good optics.  Vortex even states that the Razor is their top of the line optically, basically on par with their Stokes DLS.  It has no more fuzziness at the edges than any other bino I've used, certainly less than my Leica Trinovid 8X50.  In addition, the 8X42 has one of the widest FOV available @ 7.8 deg.  The eyecups have 15 graduated position settings, more than any binocular I've ever heard of.
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I tend to agree with both of the above responses. I have owned and compared both bins in question extensively. It is my opinion that both compare quite well with one another and to some extent with the three Euro binoculars and the Nikon LXL.

 

The Razors optically seem very similar to the Leica Trinovid to my eyes in terms of...

 

- Size of sweet spot of image in focus which is fairly large

- Color rendition that is fairly neutral

- A fairly tack sharp image with little color fringing (chromatic abberation)

 

The Meoptas optically seem more similar to the original Swaro SLCs....

 

- An even larger sweet spot

- Color rendition slightly warm but not "yellow" as some folks reference

- Slightly more color fringing in the outer 1/3rd of the image but with better contrast and brightness levels (the latter is only bettered by the Ultravid and FL to my eyes)

 

Ergonomically the Razors are a bit longer and, despite the open bridge design, feel a bit heavier to me. The Meoptas are practially identical to the Leica Trinovids in weight and shape with the exception that they have thumb indents and a lack of ribbing on the sides.

 

Either would be an excellent choice in my opinion.

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