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  I read on another site that Meopta make the Zeiss Conquest scopes.  Does anyone know if that is true?
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Not true, conquest is made in the US, Meopta is made in checz repulic.
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Thanks for the quick reply.  I have the Meopta spotting scope and love it. 

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Meopta has improved thier quality and thier new Meostar line is very nice for the price.

Great to hear about your spotting scope I have been thinking of a upgrade for my old one,

maybe Meopta.

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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

Not true, conquest is made in the US, Meopta is made in checz repulic.

 

Not according to koshkin.

He claims, I believe, that Meopta makes the glass for the Conquest.

 

Grant @ G&R Tactical simply won't confirm, nor deny that they do.

 

 

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Hello Cheap

 

Meopta might make the glass, that I am not shure about, but the question was for the scope.

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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

Hello Cheap

 

Meopta might make the glass, that I am not shure about, but the question was for the scope.

 

Ah yes!!

I stand corrected.

I thought the poster was asking about the glass.

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Glass is a scary subject these days, finding the source on alot of the newer models

for alot of brands is very hard. Koshkin does Meopta make the conquest glass?

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I just shot koshkin a PM.
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To the best of my knowledge, Meopta makes the glass for Conquest scopes.  The mechanicals are made mostly in Germany, and the whole thing is assembled in the US.

If memory serves me right, Meopta is the largest optical instrument/lens maker in the world.  They OEM stuff for a lot of people.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

To the best of my knowledge, Meopta makes the glass for Conquest scopes.  The mechanicals are made mostly in Germany, and the whole thing is assembled in the US.

If memory serves me right, Meopta is the largest optical instrument/lens maker in the world.  They OEM stuff for a lot of people.

ILya

 

Interesting...

 

I wonder if Meopta is using higher quality glass & coatings on their Meostar line (as compared to the Conquest)?  I've been considering a 7x56 fixed Meostar as my next purchase but haven't found one to handle.

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Meopta is a contract manufacturer for Zeiss. As such they are using the coaing formula that Zeiss provides them with.  They can not use the same coatings and optics for their own Meostar scopes.  Personally, I think Meostar is slightly better than Conquest and is almost on par with 30mm IORs.

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 Koshkin wrote.

I think Meostar is slightly better than Conquest and is almost on par with 30mm IORs.

 

 

+1, thanks for the info on the conquest glass Koshkin.

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Thanks for the info everyone.   I am thinking about getting a 4-16 mildot Meopta for my 300 RUM.  Sounding like it is worth the money.

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That is a very nice scope and worth the money IMO. Good luck and keep us posted.
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I pulled this off of Chuck Hawk's website.  What are your thoughts or opinions of this review?  Is it true what he is saying about the Zeiss glass? 

 

Carl Zeiss

Perhaps no current scope maker is carving up the deluxe scope market like Zeiss and their "made in USA" Conquest line of scopes. People seem confused about them.

1) Neither Leupold nor anyone else makes scopes for Zeiss. Other scope manufacturers do buy uncoated glass from Zeiss for their own product. Zeiss coatings are proprietary, however. No coated scope lenses are sold.
2) Zeiss Conquest tubes are made in Long Island, NY, at Zeiss' own facility.
3) Zeiss power ranges are as stated.
4) The optics in Zeiss scopes are made by Zeiss, imported from Europe.
5) Zeiss conducts sporadic destructive recoil testing; however, it is a small percentage of their production. None of these scopes are sold; they are destroyed after testing.
6) Light transmission through Zeiss Conquest tubes is approx. 93%. Zeiss was quick to point out that what degrades image quality is the grade of glass. Lead and arsenic content is destructive to scope images; that is why Zeiss is quite proud of their lead-arsenic free glass. Production of optical glass requires analysis and variation of the refraction factor, etc., so that the best possible combination and compounding ratio can be selected. To eliminate the use of lead (lead oxide), it was discovered that titanium oxide compares well with lead. Titanium oxide does no harm to the human body; it also renders a high refraction factor and is chemically stable. A big plus for scope use is more lightweight lenses, as titanium oxide is very light.

The 93% light transmission seems a bit light compared to other claims. Zeiss explained that they don't measure "light transmission" like other manufacturers, they go "air to air" not "lens-to-lens." The lead-free arsenic-free glass allows for non-distorted light, which is allegedly more perceptible and usable by the human eye, along with their own coatings, which they feel are generations ahead of the many scope gluers.

Naturally, I also asked why they felt they were "ahead?" The answer was, as they actually make their own glass (Schott), they should know a little bit more about it than people who just buy it.

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Chuck Hawks occasionally gets something right with his reviews on scopes, but not all that often.

Most of this is BS. 

If you read carefully, there is even a contradiction there: first he says lead is harmful for image quality, then he says that lead is replaced with titanium oxide to improve image quality without harm to the human body.

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