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shoot4fun ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() Joined: February/09/2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 33 |
jonbravado I sent you a PM. Thanks
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jonbravado ![]() Optics Master ![]() ![]() Joined: October/05/2006 Status: Offline Points: 1131 |
good point, ranburr - toyota has knocked it out of the park.
there has been a big swing towards EURO optics in the 10 years. meopta has some good power ranges in meostar and nice pricepoints. Just need to market them a good bit better. i think they have a well rounded offering.
What, besides 1 inch tubes, are they missing, ranburr?
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SwattedOut ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() ![]() Joined: October/30/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 54 |
Still love my Meopta 7x56. An excellent value for the money.Very bright with good low light capabilities. I agree with Ranburr about the marketing. I think that a 3x9x40 would smoke the nearest competitor in terms of price and quality. I am open minded but the 3x12x56 with a 30mm tube is a BEAST. I just don't see it appealing to your average weekend deer hunter. But, an incredible scope anyway.
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jonbravado ![]() Optics Master ![]() ![]() Joined: October/05/2006 Status: Offline Points: 1131 |
they actually have 40 AND 44mm models now - so the offering seems pretty complete.
check em out.
http://www.swfa.com/showcategory.aspx?categoryid=1134&sb =Name&so=asc&page=2
now they just need to work on marketing.
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Duce ![]() Optics Master ![]() ![]() Joined: September/19/2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1231 |
I would look at their US web site at http://www.meopta.com/index.php?id=203&lang=en
They have been in the US for a long time and sell to the goverment. I have never had one of their scope but I have had experence with their photo equipment and it is excellent.
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ranburr ![]() Optics Master ![]() Joined: May/16/2004 Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
1" tubes and power ranges that appeal to U.S. shooters. I would venture to say that 1" 3-9x40 scopes are the number one sellers in the U.S. A 7x56 has limited appeal, regardless of the quality.
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lagarto308 ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() Joined: May/06/2006 Status: Offline Points: 40 |
Last saturday night my friends and I were testing different scopes, after a night hunting wild boars. There was a quarter of moon low in the sky.
Well, Zeiss Diavari T x56, Meopta Artemis 3100 x56 y Swaroski x56. All of them was very close in light transmission, perhaps Zeiss the best one. But thinking in the quality-price ratio ... Meopta was the winner. Regards. |
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ranburr ![]() Optics Master ![]() Joined: May/16/2004 Status: Offline Points: 1082 |
You really need to take both history and a reading comprehension classes. There was nothing inaccurate about my comments. By the way, when did I ever speak ill of Toyota? Your original message accused me of talking trash on them. Detroit did laugh at them because the early japanese cars were crap. But, they learned from their mistakes. They hired a true professional to show them where they had gone wrong.. Who do you think taught the japanese the concept of quality? You obviously don't know, thus I will tell you; Dr.Deming. An American from Detroit. Meopta has a handfull of 1" scopes in oddball configurations. They do not make a 1" 3-9x40. It is not just me that thinks the 3-9x40 is a good option. The vast majority of the scope buying public agrees with me. This is clearly proven by the fact it is the number selling scope configuration in the world. As far as a U.S. plant goes, that is news to me. Repair center; sure, manufacturing; no. Your ignorance is so obvious to everyone but you. By the way, I like the quality of the Meostars. You should have figured that out by now, (I guess that whole ignorance thing is getting in the way). Also, my MBA tells me that if Meopta has a better selling, more Americanized product; prices could very well drop. Ever hear of a little German outfit called Zeiss and the Conquest line? Finally, please seek help. You probably can't do anything about the double digit IQ. But, you ought to be able to control that attitude. Hugs & Kisses
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koshkin ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11844 |
Meopta does have a production facility in the US, but that production facility has nothing to do with sport optics. To the best of my knowledge all scopes and binoculars are made in Meopta's facility in Europe. The US production facility only serves other markets.
As good as Meopta scopes are, they are certainly designed primarily for a European market and are likely to become a niche player until they redesign some products. The only 1" scopes in their line-up that I am aware of are the 6x42, 4x32 and 7x50 Artemis 2000 scopes. All other scopes are 30mm, which limits their marketability to a certain degree. Also, most of the Artemis scopes (except 3000) have steel tubes which, while offering some advantages, is typically frowned upon in the American market. Another thing about Artemis line-up: it would be great to know what exactly is the glass difference between Artemis and Meostar scopes. As good as Meostars are, in my limited experience, Artemis scopes were not quite as good (if anyone knows what the differences are, I would much appreciate some info). Perhaps, they've been redesigned since then, but I have not heard anything about that. While Meopta does offer a couple of 3-9x42 scopes, they are in the Artemis line-up, have 30mm tubes and are a fair bit heavier than a typical 3-9x scopes that dominate this market. Another significant issue is that the eye relief of most Meopta scopes is pretty short for American tastes. Just about every Meopta scopes I have seen yet, has eye relief around 3"-3.2". With so many hunters here choosing light rifles chambered for powerful cartridges, generous eye relief is pretty important. Noone likes to get hit on the head with their own scope (I sure as hell do not). ILya |
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BillL223 ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() Joined: May/30/2007 Status: Offline Points: 1 |
I have a 1-4 x 22 Meostar with the illuminated K-dot on my 3-gun AR. After 9 years of trying to find the best optic for that application, I found it. Currently I'm shopping to upgrade the Bushnell 3200 Elite 10 x 42 on my Remington LTR and am seriously looking the the Meostar 4-16 x 44. I'd like to here alternative choices.
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DevL ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() Joined: August/13/2006 Status: Offline Points: 5 |
I believe the difference in the Artemis and Meostar lines is that the Meostar have fully multicoated lenses. I too am happy with my Meopta Meostar 1-4x22. I wish they made illuminated, FFP scopes, with 30mm tubes and mildot reticles. Meopta seems to love the SFP design unfortunately.
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koshkin ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11844 |
Some Artemis scopes are FFP (which is why I was wondering, to be honest). Also meopta web site indicates that Artemis 2100 scopes have multi-coatings on all surfaces:
ARTEMIS 2000 One of the world most sophisticated
riflescope lines, with the widest assortment of both fixed and variable
power scopes of any Meopta line, the 2000 series utilizes solid steel
body tube construction to maximize durability and shock resistance.
Designed with the serious user in mind these scopes offer superior
The
2100 series offers an illuminated center dot for hunting in low light
conditions. The illumination of the center dot under normal daylight
conditions is observable only when set on intensity level 6 or 7, so
that the target no matter how small will not be overwhelmed or lost in
the brightness of the dot when illuminated. • Fixed and variable magnifications
A mechanically and optically sophisticated designed variable power riflescope line, which will appeal to a broad range of users. The 3000 Series offers one piece, lightweight Aluminum alloy body tube, with the reticle positioned in the rear or second focal plane, a wide selection of magnifications and objective lenses choose from, it has been designed to cover a full range of riflescope applications. MEOSTAR R1 By
combining old world craftsmanship with state-of-the-art technology and
materials Meopta has developed a new generation of riflescopes, scalled
Meostar. In building these new riflescopes we utilize only the
highest-grade aircraft aluminum alloy material available, in addition
to bead blasting the exterior before the “Elox” anodizing process to
ensure a extremely durable and non-reflective black matte outer finish.
The Meostar R1 RD 1-4x22 model with illuminated K-dot reticle is designed for hunting under difficult, |
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Dale Clifford ![]() Optics Jedi Knight ![]() Joined: July/04/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5087 |
gotta love this one from another web.. what say ye???
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koshkin ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Dark Lord of Optics Joined: June/15/2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11844 |
Well, since Meopta makes the glass for the Conquest, I think it stand to reason they are comparable, although I think Meostars are a little better than the Conquest.
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tahqua ![]() MODERATOR ![]() ![]() Have You Driven A Ford Lately? Joined: March/27/2006 Location: Michigan, USA Status: Offline Points: 8341 |
Chris Farris had some observations back in March that might be worth noting.
http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=6050&KW=me opta&TPN=1
I have seen that Meopta is increasing their advertising. They have run full page ads in Predator Extreme and Sports Afield lately. |
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lagarto308 ![]() Optics GrassHopper ![]() Joined: May/06/2006 Status: Offline Points: 40 |
We compared some time ago a conquest against a zeiss & a swaro, in poor light conditions, and the conquest was poorest than others. As I said before, some days ago we compared zeiss vs swaro vs meopta and all of them was similars, I would purchase a meopta if I need a new scope because of the price-quality ratio.
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Focus ![]() Optics Master ![]() ![]() Conquistador!! Joined: June/05/2007 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 1006 |
ILya...........I was led to believe by zeiss that the conquest scopes
used shott lead and arsenic free glass made in company. Has this
changed at some point, or was I told incorrectly?
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