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I've just compared a Meopta Meostar 3-12x56 and a Kahles CL 3-10x50, and to my surprise I found the cheaper Meopta superior.
I found the image richer and more vibrant than the Kahles, which though admirably neutral was pretty dull in comparison.
My buddies disagreed, and found the Kahles resolved better, but not to my eyes. We all did agree that the Meopta was significantly brighter though.
I was previously thinking about buying a Kahles CL 4-12x52 next, but maybe not if they have a similar image to the 3-10x50 model. Has anyone compared the two?



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i have compared the meopta meostar to the kahles C series. BOTH 56mm's.

both at 7 power. and both at dusk.

 

the meostar held it's own, nicely - there was a slight edge to the kahles, but not by much.

 

they both look just fine to my eyes.  i was impressed at the quality of meopta for the money.

 

but if i had the 1300 bucks, i would buy the kahles.

 

both are wonderful scopes.

 

J

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The comparison we did was in bright sunshine (a rare thing in England!), and the Meopta was noticeably brighter to all.
I had assumed that the Kahles CL would be better, but I have to say that I was a little disappointed with it. Sure, the finish looked and felt better than the Meopta, but optically I was not really impressed.
I wonder if the 4-12x52 version is any better?
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well - the CL IS a better scope than the meostar - not by much, but it's noticable at dusk if you are looking for it.

 

if you were comparing the 56mm meostar w/ a 50mm kahles - and they were both set on 10 power.

the exit pupil (how much light hits your eye) would be 5.6mm and 5mm respectively.

 

even THEN, the CL should have been a little brighter - but i think in bright daylight you just can't notice as well.

try them both in the dusk/dawn hours and i bet you will notice the opposite.

 

with all that said, they are both remarkable scopes w/ great images.  either one would be just fine.

 

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Both scopes were set on 10 power. I understand from the mathematical / scientific reason why the bigger lensed Meopta should be brighter, but we were all still expecting that the higher quality Kahles of broadly similar spec to be brighter. Maybe in dusky light the Kahles might show its class. The only other scope I have ever owned that was significantly better than both in terms of brightness and clarity was a Swarovski PVS.
Another thing that was very noticeable was that when set on 10 power, the Meopta image appeared to be considerably higher magnification than the Kahles. I'd say the Meopta on x8 was roughly similar to the Kahles on x10.
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That is unlikely to be the difference in magnification.  The image through the Kahles appeared to be less magnified because of the field of view difference.  Kahles has a wider field of view, if I remember correctly, so if you are looking at the same object through both scopes it will take up a bigger part of the whole view in the Meopta making it look more magnified.

As for the richer/more vibrant image, that is likely the effect of the the apparent contrast: Meopta will show better contrast in bright light since its coatings are biased toward those wavelengths a little.  In low light Kahles will be a little better since its coatings are a bit better in the blue.  Another factor is the fact that Kahles CL, I think, has one more lens than the Meostar.

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Thanks for the explanation ILya. The Kahles did have a wider field of view, and also longer eye relief, thus giving the impression of a smaller, less magnified image.
The neutrality of the Kahles didn't impress straight away, but might be a scope that would endear itself subtly over time. I wonder if the 30mm versions are better still?

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as for the 30mm - they only offer more range of adjustment - they should be the same optically.

 

good explanations, as usual, koshkin.

 

kahles is a wonderful scope - but since i bought my meostar last year, i am sold on meopta too.

 

let us know what you decide.

 

J

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Well, I bought the Meopta because I liked the image, the higher mag and lower price!
However, I'm after another scope soon, and the current deals on the CL 4-12x52 look quite interesting...
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