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I am a newbie to the forums but I have been reading posts for several weeks now.  I really enjoy the insight from all you guys!

I have a Mauser 98 in 308 that I am preparing to put a Burris Fullfield II on.  The gun is in great condition and I am trying to get it ready for my 15 year old son to use for whitetail season this year.  Problem is, it has the safety on the action that can't be used due to the scope location. 
 
I have read on other sites about relocating the safety or having a gunsmith alter it.  My hope is to put some of the super high scope bases on it to eliminate the problem.
 
Any advice?
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 WELCOME to OT!

 I've got a customized 98 Mauser that has a Buehler style safety on it: 

 
 
 There are a number of ways of dealing with the safety/scope issue and all should be done by a competent gunsmith. But there are also other concerns with scope mounting on a military Mauser besides the safety. I'm guessing the action has been drilled and tapped for top scope mounts?  Is the existing safety the original?  Has the bolt handle been altered for scope clearance?  Is it a military stock?
  The problem with using super high scope mounting is that the shooters face could possibly have to be lifted clear off the stock for a sight pic. You also have to take into consideration the affects of recoil when shooting like that.
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The safety and bolt handle are all original.  The stock is a high cheek Monte Carlo style that would more than accomodate the higher bases.  I have a really good recoil pad so I am not too concerned about the recoil.
 
I have a scope on it now and my son has shot it several times.  I am just not gonna let him hunt alone until I have a functioning safety.
 
How did the install of the Buehler Safety go?  Do you like it?
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 My rifle was customized when I bought it.  The safety works fine but if the rifle didn't already have an aftermarket trigger w/o a safety on it I'd get one that did. Those replacement safeties are a "gunsmith installation recommended" deal.  Any way to grind abit off of the safety for clearance? How much more clearance is needed? With that style stock (sounds the same as mine) you may be able to do the higher ring fix.
 
  "I am just not gonna let him hunt alone until I have a functioning safety." OR let him have one in the chamber until needed.  Thunbs Up
 
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Thanks for the advice.
 
My son is definitely a blessing.  He is a great shot and is mature enough to handle a gun like that with not many worries on my part.  He loves shooting it and is dying to take it out.  Hopefully we will get it setup soon.
 
 
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 No problem. Not knowing your son's firearms handling experience I thougt I'd just mention the one in the chamber thing.  GOOD LUCK to you and your son.  NICE avatar by the way. 
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I killed my first deer with this gun at 14, always kept the chamber empty till I needed it.  So, I know what you mean.  Still not a great thought sending your kid out without that safety!!!
 
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Welcome to the OT Hawgwild..... Love the Avatar friend!
 
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Thanks for the welcome 300 and SVT.  I have already learned alot in the few weeks I have been watching the posts.  Just ordered a new Vortex scope based on the reviews given here.
 
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Have an after market safety put on it and get a Timney Sportsman trigger for it.  
 
     
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Ed thanks for the picture and the advice.  Your scope is is low as mine and that seems to be exactly what I need.
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Actually, that is just an Internet photo, but you can see the safety.......I have a sporterized Mauser with the safety on the left side....but still low and out of the way like this one is.   
 
I need to get a Timney trigger for mine.  I still have the old two-stage military trigger in there.  
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Mine is not the 2 stage trigger, but I am not sure what it is.  When my dad was in the service back in the late 60's and 70's, he got into competetive shooting out in Cali.  Him and a gunsmith put the gun together.  It is a very nice setup, he carved the stock himself.
 
He still makes fun of me for putting a variable power scope on it.  He was still using an old single post 4x scope when he gave it to mo in 2000.
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 With bolt and safety altered you can get a scope fairly low:
 
 
 
  
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Awesome!  Thanks again.
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Just an update, I put Weaver high rise scope rings on and it is great!!!  Thanks for all the advice!
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I dont' know if you get the MID_WAY flyers but they had the safety conversion in it this month.....forgot you where looking at it.
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Thanks SVT, I am still looking at the safety conversion.  I will check it out!
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I have a 308 Mauser that I put together based on a Yugo action some time ago.  I ended up using Timney Buehler style safety and a Timney trigger.  Both work fine and I do not recall any installation problems.

In my case, I am using a fairly high base so clearance was not much of an issue, but the updates safety is still more convenient.  You can kinda see the safety in this picture (taken for the upcoming Sightron S3 10x42 review):


Here is another shot where you can see the Mauser with SWFA S.S. 10x42 HD on it.  I think this allows for a better view of the safety:
 

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