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which scope would you guys choose for a long range hunting scope?there will be some dialing in with a custom turret.6.5-20x50 mark 4 milldot or sightron S3 30mm 6-24x50 milldot.
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Whats you're range and what you're game ?all factors to consider.
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out to 1000 yds on the bench,I do a lot of shooting in the off season for practice.mainly for deer and bear hunting but probably not at 1k im not that comfortable yet although I shot my buck this year at 780 yards with 1 clean shot.but this scope will be going on a new custom i am having built,it will be A 264 win mag on 700 action-hart douglas taper #5-mcmillan htg stock-berger 140's-load undeveloped yet.

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That all sounds good, unfortunately I don't do any long range at least beyond 400/500yrds
and the highest power scope I use is a 4x12x40,so I really cant give good advice .today is a slow day for everyone,so if you can be patient, some one will help you tomorrow. you can count on that. /good luck!
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I think the new Sightron S3 has the edge here. 

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what if we throw the conquest 6.5-20x50 into the mix?
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I'd still go with SIghtron S3, I think.  More adjustment range and the glass is at least as good if not better.

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a 264 will get you maybe 1500 rds of a lotta shootin. compare this with the maybe 30 rds you will shoot hunting makes the leo a clear choice. get the tmr however, much better than mildots. your gun with something like smk or vld 140 will be about 18 moa at 1000 yds. about 2 turns on the leo. haven't used this sightron, but have a great deal of difficulty believing its turret system will hold up as well as the m1s system on the leo. glass is just a small part of a good scope. -- a 1000 yd ar 223 with leo mk4 and leo v3
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I think you'd be amazed with how repeatable Sightron S3 turrets are, Dale.

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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I think you'd be amazed with how repeatable Sightron S3 turrets are, Dale.

ILya

im continually amazed at the size of dales collection!
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Go with the Leupold hands down, Its a much better scope in my opinion. Nothing wrong with the Sightron though. Around here the majority of competitive shooters use Leupolds.
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Originally posted by mike4764 mike4764 wrote:

Go with the Leupold hands down, Its a much better scope in my opinion. Nothing wrong with the Sightron though. Around here the majority of competitive shooters use Leupolds.


Have you seen/used the new Sightron S3?

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Yes I have used a Sightron. I dont own one but I have borrowed one from a buddy at the range. I do like them but I am more partial to the leupolds. I very much like the m1 knobs and the durability of the Leupolds. Again nothing wrong with the sightrons just my prefrence. The sightron glass is very nice by the way. I am one of thoses people that thinks the Leupold glass is pretty good also. Alot of people say that its just ok but I dissagree. Is it the best no, but pretty good. Also I think everything is overpriced not just Leupold.
By the way the price of VX-III's is so low right now its hard to beat. M1 knobs added are $129 from Leupold.
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Sorry it was a S3 3.5-10x44
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Originally posted by mike4764 mike4764 wrote:

Sorry it was a S3 3.5-10x44


When was it made?  Sightron S3 went through a complete redesign about a year ago.

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Not sure when it was made but I should see the guy that own's it soon.

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The Sightron has better glass and internal components.Leupold has a big following so it has the edge in marketing there scopes over the other brand.
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I completely disagree with that statement as it is unfounded and based on opinion. I believe Leupold makes a fine product. I compete in many different disciplines and 8 out of 10 scopes at any given competition is Leupold, and the most experienced competitors only use the best.
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I'd still go with SIghtron S3, I think.  More adjustment range and the glass is at least as good if not better.

ILya
 
Second that. I have the New SIII 6-24x50LRMD and love it. Thanks Koshkin for the advice.
 
Pluses of SIII
- Great Glass
- rock solid tracking
- fully coated optics
- 100moa
- Lifetime no questions warranty
- no back lash issues with Side focus
- Almost at night force optics for half price
 
Do you think this is too much power for hunting part of the equation. Awesome bench scope but will 6x be a problem.
 
If so, look at the Big Sky SS 4.5-14x44MD (80moa) . Either way, Sightron get the nod.
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Originally posted by mike4764 mike4764 wrote:

I completely disagree with that statement as it is unfounded and based on opinion. I believe Leupold makes a fine product. I compete in many different disciplines and 8 out of 10 scopes at any given competition is Leupold, and the most experienced competitors only use the best.
 
The Mark 4's are great scopes however, the new SIII's have better glass. I defer to Koshkin on that. Sightrons tracking is second to none so here we have a tie. 100 moa is more than enough. Sightrons have no back lash issues on the parallax adjustment that some Leu's have and I have not heard of any canted reticles either. Both are fine products but at $750 there abouts for the new SIII it's a tough act to beat at any price. Both have outstanding warranty
 
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I guess I am just a little biased toward Leupold because I have never been let down by one, but I am open minded and would like to try a Sightron especially for my silhouette rifle. There silhouette scope is very highly regarded and I may buy one in the spring.
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If you get a sightron, make sure it is one of the new Model SIII's or at least a big sky. The new models have been completely redone. The model you mentioned is an older SIII. The glass has been changed and they have much more moa now and correct turrets. My 6-24x50 has 1/4 adj. and 15 moa per revolution. They have lines to count revolutions from behind the scope but do not have the direction indicators.
 
Yes its cool that there are so many nice options. Variety is the spice of life. What would we share if we all had the same thing. It's just like New Years dinner last night at my house. We had some friends over and there was a total of 6 of us. 3 couples. Me Italian, my wife Korean, my friend Swedish, his girl from Peru, My other friend from Canada(poor guy) his girl Chinese. Talk about ecclecticBig Grin And we all get along.
 
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is the newer S3 sightron distinguishable by the design? I am looking at an S3 with the newer style, have they been revampped since dropping the side saddle focus turret?
 
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Originally posted by hunterco hunterco wrote:

is the newer S3 sightron distinguishable by the design? I am looking at an S3 with the newer style, have they been revampped since dropping the side saddle focus turret?
 
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All of the SIII's have side focus so I'm not sure what your refering to. They feature a fast focus eye piece and have "LR" (long range) in the model number. just go to www.sightron.com and click on the SIII link for pics and specs.
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Originally posted by hunterco hunterco wrote:

is the newer S3 sightron distinguishable by the design? I am looking at an S3 with the newer style, have they been revampped since dropping the side saddle focus turret?
 
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Not sure what you mean by side saddle focus turret.  They all have side focus.  Visually the new S3s all have a different eyepiece design.

ILya
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