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Yes, Zeiss does make such a scope.  The 4-16X50 Victory FL w/ #60 reticle has all the features you're looking for, except it isn't a Varipoint style reticle where the reticle is in the first focal plane and the dot in the second.

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-4-16x50-Victory-Diavari-FL-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P45596.aspx

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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Yes, Zeiss does make such a scope.  The 4-16X50 Victory FL w/ #60 reticle has all the features you're looking for, except it isn't a Varipoint style reticle where the reticle is in the first focal plane and the dot in the second.

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-4-16x50-Victory-Diavari-FL-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P45596.aspx

Please read the forum rules you agreed to when you registered your account.  I had to edit your post to remove a reference to one of SWFA's competitors.  This site is provided by SWFA, an optics retailer, and it's not right to use the very site they provide for our use to mention one of their competitors.


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In the Varipoint style reticles, the crosshairs grow in size in direct proportion to the target as you increase magnification, yet the illuminated dot in the center of the reticle stays the same size regardless of power setting.  This is due to the fact the crosshairs are located in the front portion of the scope in front of the erector assy so it is magnified with the target image, whereas the lit dot is located in the rear of the scope close to the eyepiece where it isn't magnified as you increase power.  The advantage to this system is the crosshairs always subtend the same amount of the target regardless of magnification, yet the dot stays small for more precision aiming at long distance.

All of the #60 reticle on the Victory Diavari FL is in the 2nd focal plane (non-magnifying) -- crosshairs and dot -- so it doesn't change size when you change magnification.

To answer your question on the glass comparison between Conquest and Victory Diavari series, the Diavaris are better optically in every respect.  It isn't by a huge margin, but better nevertheless.  Diavari has a wider 4X power zoom range vs. the Conquest's 3X zoom range.  Diavari has greater W/E adjustment range, which makes it better suited for long range shooting.  The Diavaris have the "LotuTec" outer lens coating that sheds water and dirt; Conquest doesn't.  Diavari is also available with illuminated reticles and Conqest isn't.

Whether any of this is worth the hefty price increase over the Conquest is debatable and depends on what you plan to use the scope for and what value you place on these advantages.


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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

In the Varipoint style reticles, the crosshairs grow in size in direct proportion to the target as you increase magnification, yet the illuminated dot in the center of the reticle stays the same size regardless of power setting.  This is due to the fact the crosshairs are located in the front portion of the scope in front of the erector assy so it is magnified with the target image, whereas the lit dot is located in the rear of the scope close to the eyepiece where it isn't magnified as you increase power.  The advantage to this system is the crosshairs always subtend the same amount of the target regardless of magnification, yet the dot stays small for more precision aiming at long distance.

All of the #60 reticle on the Victory Diavari FL is in the 2nd focal plane (non-magnifying) -- crosshairs and dot -- so it doesn't change size when you change magnification.

To answer your question on the glass comparison between Conquest and Victory Diavari series, the Diavaris are better optically in every respect.  It isn't by a huge margin, but better nevertheless.  Diavari has a wider 4X power zoom range vs. the Conquest's 3X zoom range.  Diavari has greater W/E adjustment range, which makes it better suited for long range shooting.  The Diavaris have the "LotuTec" outer lens coating that sheds water and dirt; Conquest doesn't.  Diavari is also available with illuminated reticles and Conqest isn't.

Whether any of this is worth the hefty price increase over the Conquest is debatable and depends on what you plan to use the scope for and what value you place on these advantages.


Thank you very well said.
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No problem.

That Zeiss 4-16X50 Victory FL scope is a spectacular scope!  I know without a doubt you'd love it!  It's price tag is the only downside to it (other than the fact I wish it was available with a first focal plane mil reticle and matching mil turrets).
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