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I know I've read it but, can someone tell me the truth? Are Burris and Leupold scopes made here or do they purchase the optical glass elswhere ? ie. Japan
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Parts for everything seem to come from everywhere nothing is set in stone.
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Who makes large quanities of optical glass in the USA???  Schott may make some, but...  Arsenic is often used to help purify glass.  Radioactive materials may also be used to make really good optical glass.  Then there are the chemicals used in the coating process after things are ground...    

 

Burris tells you they get the glass from off shore.  Then it gets into which line you buy.

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The glass is purchased elsewhere (Japan primarily).  That goes for both Burris and Leupold.

Higher end Burris scopes are assembled in US.  Lower end ones are assembled in Phillipiines.  Leupold claims all of their scopes are assembled in US.

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Welcome to The OT, blackwinch!!

 

 

Hey koshkin, you back CONUS??? 

 

 

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Yeah, I came back on Wednesday.

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USO makes everything in the us. don't they?
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Originally posted by Anthony Anthony wrote:

USO makes everything in the us. don't they?

 

I believed that to be true at one time. Not sure about the glass now though.

 

I think I'll email USO and ask. 

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I've emailed Leupold and Burris to see how they respond also...
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I know for a fact that Leupold produces scopes out of their factory in Beaverton, OR.  I have been through it many time.  My dad went to work in the Mark 4/Tactical section once retiring from the Police Dept.  As for who makes the parts that go into the scope, I have no idea.  I also do know for a fact that the scopes are anodized here in Portland, OR...My dad pointed the business out to me that does it for Leupold when we were out driving one day.  Hope this helps a little

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Originally posted by Stormtrooper154 Stormtrooper154 wrote:

I know for a fact that Leupold produces scopes out of their factory in Beaverton, OR.  I have been through it many time.  My dad went to work in the Mark 4/Tactical section once retiring from the Police Dept.  As for who makes the parts that go into the scope, I have no idea.  I also do know for a fact that the scopes are anodized here in Portland, OR...My dad pointed the business out to me that does it for Leupold when we were out driving one day.  Hope this helps a little

 

I don't dispute your post in the least.

But, I'm quite sure Leupold does use Jap glass. High quality Jap glass, but Jap glass none the less.

 

I don't think this makes the scopes "unAmerican", but I do have a knee jerk reaction when someone says "The reason I use Leupold is because they are 100% American made."

Not really a factual statement and fairly misinformed. 

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I agree with you Cheaptrick!  Like I mentioned in my post, I said "I have no idea where the parts come from". I just never asked.  When my dad gets back from the coast tomorrow, I will ask him.  I just know for a fact that they make the scopes in Beaverton, OR.  I buy Leupold because there are a great quality scope, local company (for me), top notch warranty, and high resale value and top notch customer service.  

 

They once told me my scope would be done and ready for pickup (from the custom shop).  When I got there, the scope was not ready and was going to take another few days.  I was a little upset with the whole situation because I was planing on hunting with that scope and needed it the next day.  The custom shop tech worked late, got the scope done and left it with the security department.  I was able to pick my scope up that night and they also didnt charge me a dime for about $200 in custom work they had done. A+ service in my book!

 

Am I a guy that has to have Leupold and will not even take a look at anything else???  No!!!  I own 2 Mark 4, 1 VX-3, 2 Nikons, 1 Bushnell, and I am really close to giving the Super Sniper a go.  I am just a guy that buys the best optics for the given task at hand.  Thats why I have not bought a Super Sniper...I just havent had a need yet for a Fixed power scope.    

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I didn't mean to come off as argumentative.....at least this time.

 

 

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I didn't take your post as being argumentative.  I just didn't know if you saw the part of my first post stating I didn't know where they got all the parts to make the scopes.

 

This time.....

Next time.....

 

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Hey guys thanks for all the info!
What I do know it that in my experience Leupold is a decent company to deal with...
As far as the glass is concerned I wish it were supplied by an US company making it in the USA but, if it isn't all American and the tubes and other parts
are made and assembled in Beverton as I suspect great. There is nothing like knowing the employees of a company actually use the product as I'm
sure Stormtrooper's dad does. Do you think someone in the Phillipines or Communist China has ever had the chance to use the products they
assemble?
Definitely not.
We are truely blessed to live in this great country! That's why I try as I might to support our industries. The guy you help employ just might be your
neighbor or Stormtrooper's Dad.
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Hey Stormtrooper!
Tell your Dad I said Thank You!
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Originally posted by Stormtrooper154 Stormtrooper154 wrote:

 

This time.....

Next time.....

 

Storm

 

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Yes, My father uses strickly Leupold Products.....Mainly because employees can purchase any product at cost.  I bought my first two Mark4 scopes using his discount.  He has about 4 or 5 scopes ranging from VX-1 up to illuminated Mark4 and three spotting scopes.  He left Leupold about 1 year ago, but still continues to purchase their products at retail prices.  Being on the inside of the company and then continuing to purchase the products at full retail sure tells me something about the product line. 

 

The great thing about scopes is that there are so many out there with different price points, options, and magnification.  Buying these optics should be no different then buying a firearm!  You need to do some homework and figure out what product is going to work best for you and your situation.  Personally, I like my firearms to have that "Tactical" look to them.  Even my .17 HM2 that I use to punch paper and varmint hunt still sporets that look.  So I use "Tactical Looking" optics on them, even though they will never see any Tactical use.  Its all about what you like and the job its going to do.

 

Ruger 10/22 Receiver
Volquartsen 20" Fluted/Ported barrel .17 HM2
Volquartsen Bolt Conversion
Volquartsen Scope Mount
Volquartsen TG2000 Trigger Group
Custom Leupold 6.5x20x50mm .17 HM2 Bullet Drop Dial (25 yard increment's)
Burris Tactical 30mm Rings
Premier II Laminated Target Stock

 

 

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Here is the low down that my father gave me on the phone.  I didnt have to wait because he ended up calling to see how the dog was doing....I let him know I was doing OK also .

 

Leupold has 2 suppliers for the glass they use in all of their scopes.  Japan and Korea are where the suppliers are located.  He told me that Leupold has attempted to find a US glass supplier, however the quality of the glass is below the quality they are getting from the suppliers overseas.  Every other part of the scopes (all lines), are produced in the US.  Every line of Leupold scope is assembled and packaged in their plant in Beaverton, OR.

 

So in short, Leupold scopes (all lines) are made in the US and all parts (besides glass) are supplied from US companies.  He also told me that having the 2 suppliers of glass has something to do with the different types of coatings used on them.  So I have no idea if they use one type in one line and another type in another line.

 

My opinion, however this is just my opinion, is that they use the better of the 2 glass suppliers for the higher end scopes and the other for the lower end scope.  They could also use one supplier for scopes and the other supplier for the other products they offer.  Either way, I dont think that you can have a lower end product when they offer a lifetime warranty like Leupold does on all of thier products.  Either way, I would use any product line offered from Leupold.

 

Hope this helps!

 

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Japan AND Korea??

Interesting. I wasn't aware of that.

 

Nice rifle above, Troop!!

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Thanks...That is my most recent project.  I am actually refinishing the stock to a OD green color.  You cant really tell in the pictures, but the layer rings in the wood are a red color...not my thing.  I couldnt tell that from the suppliers picture, or I wouldn't have bought it.  It should turn out nice when I am done.  I am working on the clear right now....on my 8th of about 20 coats.
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I'm not sure what the point of having that kind of money tied up in a .17cal is but OK.
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You know, I totally agree with you Urimaginaryfrnd.  I built this rifle with funds from the sale of my home after my wife and I seperated.  She never really let me build much, so maybe it was a way of telling here to "look at me now" LOL   I have also built a custom Mauser 30-06, custom Model 70 30-06, and bought a Model 700 300WSM.  I am getting the Mauser Duracoated as we speek for the upcoming deer season. 

 

I have also met a nice young lady that enjoys firearms as much as I do, so life is getting better after the seperation.  I tell you what though, I can shoot out a nickle sized hole at 100 yards with that .17, one heck of a varmint gun!

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