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Long time viewer, first time poster.  I have an M1A Loaded that I've had for about a year.  It is time to get some optics.  I'd like to hear what you guys have to say about the following (all on a bassett machine piccatinny rail mount).  My absolute max is 1200, but I'd like to stay under 1000, if possible.

 Nightforce 3.5-15X50 NXS  (there is one on samplelist for 1199)
 Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x50mm LR/T M1
 Leupold Mark 4 3.5-10x40mm LR/T M1
 
Welcome to any other suggestions in my price range. Yippee
 
 
I'd be using the rifle for hunting out to 500yds max and target shooting at long distance (which for me is 500-700yds). Weight really isn't an issue...i'll be on a bench on in a blind.  Thanks for ya'lls input.
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Nightforce - and never look back.  It blows the doors off any Leupold scope now in production.
 
Get the Nightforce!
 
And be ready to add a cheek piece.  Due to the design of the M1, glass sits high over the action, you'll want some way to get a good cheek weld, and the only way I've found is a good cheek piec.
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Thanks for the reply.  What are ya'lls thoughts on
 

Leupold Mark 4 4.5-14x40mm LR/T Target Riflescopes

 
$755 Shipped
 
I know it ain't tactical, but I'm only tactical in my mind Bucky
 
This a nice scope for long distance hunting, plinking and target.  I don't plan on winning any competitions.  This would leave me with $500 bucks more in my pocket, but is it gonna make me smile :)

Thanks guys
 
 
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IMO the nightforce is definately a better scope than the Leupold and would seem to hold value better if you ever decided to change optics later on. 
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

IMO the nightforce is definately a better scope than the Leupold and would seem to hold value better if you ever decided to change optics later on. 
 
I'm with SVT on this one. I try to make it part of my business to know how a scope is going to hold it's value. Hard to beat that NightForce - they are like a fine sports car - they retain value very well if you decide to change later vs. a Leupy which will drop value from day one.
 Also, consider some of the IOR Valdada  scopes, they have very good glass and track true.


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There is really no contest here... NF.  
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Originally posted by TeddyP TeddyP wrote:

Welcome to any other suggestions in my price range. Yippee
 


There's always one of the SS models.  Thunbs Up
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SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 3-9x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS39X42
  • Matte
  • First Focal Plane Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 0.1 MRAD
$599.95
SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS10X42
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
 $299.95
SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS10X42M
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Side Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • 1/4 MOA
$399.95 
SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope Mil-Dot SWFA SS 10x42 Tactical Riflescope
Stock # - SS10X42HD
  • Matte
  • Mil-Dot
  • 30mm
  • Rear Focus
  • OK for .50 cal
  • .10 Mrad
  • HD Model
$799.95   
The Nightforce is a very good scope. There are some positive things going for the Leupold 4.5 to  14 models but if you can live with a little less magnification I would put one of the Super Sniper scopes on it the 3-9 if you stalk game or possibly a fixed power if you hunt mainly from a blind. In a fixed I would go 10x but they do have a 16 and a 20x model also.
There are some Leupold fixed power 6x42 FX3 scopes that I also like very much one has a balistic reticle called long range duplex and another has target knobs however they are 1/8 moa clicks. I tend to think a fixed power is going to hold up better on an M1a.  I selected a 1.5x  compact ACOG for mine.
 


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One more, guys.  I've got a bead on this scope for $825 shipped.  I know NF is a clear winner, but I'm talking about 6-700 bucks cheaper here.  Any thoughts? Is the illuminated reticle that big of a deal?  I will be shooting some hoggies at night.  Thanks!
 
Leupold VX-III 4.5-14x50mm Long Range Illuminated Reticle Rifle Scope
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The scope is clearer with better glass and is more durable.  I would agree that $700 is a hard thing to overlook; however, I have had Leupolds fail me too many times to recommend them.

It's hard to find a not-blurry picture of the Loch Ness monster, it's ever harder to find someone that has broken a Nightforce.


I too am a Texas piggy hunter, and I'd also consider a 2.5-10 Trijicon Accupoint, it has great glass and a self-illuminated reticle.  if the question is "do I need illumination for hog hunting?", my answer would be a resolute "yes!"  Whether it needs to be reticle or external source, taht debate will rage on long after we are dead.
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Thanks, Rancid.
 
So you would go with a used NXS (on sample list) for 1199 over a new mark 4 w/ illum reticle for $1300?
 
Thanks for the help
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Every day. and twice on Sunday!

The Nightforce is a superior scope, I don't know anyone not employed by Leupold who would argue differently.
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Went with the Nightforce 3.5-15X50 NXS in NP-R2 reticle.  Be here Friday Yippee  Went ahead and got some Nightforce rings too.  Get Your Popcorn Ready Will post pics when she is up and running.  geez that is a lot of cash on optics.
 
Thanks for all the help.
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You guys see any problem with me using a regular inch pound torque wrench on the rings?  I'm about tapped out of funds..can't handle the single use torque wrench for another 90 bucks.Whacko
 
Thanks againExcellent
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THat is what I use.  As long as it is set right who cares what it looks like.
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What other kind would you use?

Specs will be inch/pounds.
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