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Hello to the board,

For some time I have lingered in the back ground of the forum and have been able to gather helpful information in secret based on one's question. I value the feedback and opinions of others; so now I too need to ask a question.

 

Sometime back a question was asked about LRS scopes, and I will ask the same but more defined.

 

If you have a LRS scope what brand is it and do you like it?

If you have a LRS scope is this your first one or have you owened others to compare it to?

If you have a LRS scope have you had any problems? If so please describe with the conclusion.

 

I appreciate the time and effort of all who answer.

 

Best regards

 

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LRS is a term trademarked by Burris.

I assume you are asking about any scope with lit reticle, not just Burris, right?

Lighted reticles are useful for some things and not particularly useful for others.

What application is of interest to you?

ILya

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koshkin,

Thanks for your reply and yes I meant the Burris. Sorry for any confusion to any who did not understand LRS. However, I would also like to compare other brands as well. I do have a LRS now, I intentionaly did not mention to keep unbias or bias in the discussion. But since it has been stated I might as well say it is the 4x16 SS, I use it for large game on a 7mm.

Recently I was hunting in the rain and the scoped fogged badly (internally) and drops of water appeared in the objective. Never before has this happened to me, I own several SS scopes with never a problem. I called Burris and spoke to a very friendly person (Donna) who said send it back. I sent it last Thursday and Today Donna called informing me that a new 4x16 SS with Posi is on its way to arrive Monday. I am happy with the wonderful turn around time and service I recieved. However, Gordon was not available for comment with the cause and effects of the fogging/water. Donna did say she would find out and notify me asap.

 

The LRS is a wonderful scope with crisp clear view at all variables and precise W&E adjustments that are easrly identified by feel and vision. The lighted recticle is extremely easy to use and adjustable from extremely low to high settings. I am very happy with the scope and feel the problem I had was just one that happens to improve on.

 

I still highly recommend the scope from past performance and applaud the service/warranty.

 

But again I would enjoy the opportunity to here from others with the LRS or other.

 

Best regards.

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I've played with Burris LRS scopes and they seem to have a pretty good grip on what lighted reticles should be.  In my mind there are two scenarios where a lighted reticle can be useful:

1) in a low magnification scope you may want an illuminated reticle (typically just the center dot illuminated or something along that draws the eye to the center) that is very bright and SHARPLY defined to utilize with the Bindon Aiming Concept.  S&B Short Dot is, perhaps the ultimate example of this.  Meopta 1-4x22 K-Dot is an affordable (relatively speaking) version.  I would still expect the various tritium/fiber optic illuminated Trijicons to be better at this overall.

2) in a med to hig magnification scopes used by a hunter or military/LE where the illumination would be utilized in very low light when the regular black reticle is very hard to resolve.  Here, the illumination would only be used in the dark, so I want that reticle to be EXTREMELY faint.  A basic rule of thumb is that any illumination that is visible during the day will have a substantial impact on your night vision.

I've owned quite a few illuminated reticle scopes and still have a few.  Currently, I have a couple of IORs with illuminaed reticles: 2-12x32 and 2.5-10x42.  The illumination is slightly brighter than I would have liked, but acceptable.

Among the cheap scopes, Mueller has decent grip on ilumination with their #4 reticles with illuminated dot.

Midrange, I think Burris does pretty well with LRS scopes.

Overall, I would have to say that for most of us, going with a thicker reticle, such as a #4, makes reticle ilumination an unnecessary gimmick for most situations we are likely to encounter. 

Unless you specifically need an illuminated reticle for your shooting scenario, it is just another thing to break and complicate waterproofing of the scope.

ILya
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