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 Hello all I'm new here, and don't mean to start anything.

 I've been reading alot of posts here on the subject of hi end/low end, /hi$/low$ scopes I thought I'd give my 2cents.

   I've been deer hunting every yr. since I was 14 and now I'm 32 up till 2003 I used an old 30-06 Rock Island model1903 open sights and heavy as hell! In 2003 I bought a Remington 710

 .30-.06 wich came with a Bushnell Sharpshooter 3x9x40 about a $40 scope. I've never had a season go buy with out filling my tags. I've hunted In some horrible weather (crazy winters here in ND) I sight it in about a week before seaon and I've never had a problem with it! Even with the recoil of the gun I've probably put 500 rounds through the gun in the last 4yrs. and I love it.  

 Sure I'd like to put on a higher quallity scope, but considering I'm a blue collar worker supporting a family of 4, I have a hard enough time  finding funds in the budget to buy ammo, let alone a high dollar scope to show off to my friends. I'ts just not needed alot of shooting practice and a little common sense is all thats really needed to fill freezer every yr.

  sorry so long, just my $.02 on the subject.

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You are IMO, the exception!! While you may have had good luck with a $40 scope, there are many others who have not been as fortunate!! Some, are members on this site!.........Anything man made, regardless of price, will always to some degree fail or become defective. It is like the numbers game. In the scope world, the higher in numbers that one is willing to spend or able to spend, there is a higher liklihood that less problems will occur with recticle failure, zeroing issues, fogging, moisture issues, recoil problems, durability problems and so on! It would be fair to say that had your $40 scope been mounted on a 300 mag, a 338, a 375, it would not have lasted this long..........Those of us who believe that a scope is an investment rather than an expense, are willing to spend more because we prefer the added insurance of much better glass, better durability and better quality in components. That in turn, translates into a much higher probability for our success in the field, in any weather situation and offers a lifetime of quality hunting and shooting pleasure as well! ..............Your thinking would be completely different now if your experience with that same $40 scope had been very negative. Then at that point, you would understand and be more inclined to convert to a better and more expensive scope!! Certainly, if you have ever peeped through the more expensive scopes and had some experience with them on the range or in the fields, you would readily appreciate the much better quality in glass........ As the `ol saying goes,,,"If it ain`t broke, then don`t fix it!" Since you have had good luck with your scope and as long as you are happy with it, then don`t replace it! Cross the bridge when you get to it!!...........Yep! I have a Bushnell too; the Elite 4200, and it is mounted on a 300 WSM.............................Continued good luck with yours!   
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Welcome to the forums.   Everyone is entitled to an opinion.  I think that since you have had good luck with the scope then by all means stick with it.  The thing is many people come to an optics web site looking for advice.  In my opinion and it is just that, there is not good deals in the lower end of optics.

 

I played that game for years and years and yes I have a Weaver scope for the 60's that still to this day holds zero on a .30/06 got cross hairs so fine you really have to search for them but yes it works. On the other hand it is not even close to a decent $200 Buckmaster, Burris Fullfield, 3200 Elite or Sightron.

 

If what you have works for you,  then by all means stay with it. Hunting, Shooting are two sports that I REALLY enjoy and a couple years ago I was lucky enough to get a Pentax Whitetails Unlimited scope at a very very attractive price that was my frist decent scope and after that I never looked back.  Again, I will never say that the average weekend warrior needs to go out and spend $1000 dollars on a scope. BUT that same person would be very well served to save thier $$$  for a good solid entry level scope at around $200 that will provide very nice optics and years of solid service.

 

Happy shooting and welcome to the forums

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First, I buy the stuff I get for me, not my friends.  They are big boys too and can spend thier money however they want too. I work with camera lenses a lot and am very picky.  That does not mean that there are not some good scopes for reasonable money. Sometimes work is slow and I do not have a lot of cash flow.  To me that just means I have to work harder at getting my monies worth.  I do not like having to put good money after bad, because something did not work the first time.  I'd rather spend the money to make sure that things get done right the first time.

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Originally posted by atwisted1 atwisted1 wrote:

 Hello all I'm new here, and don't mean to start anything.

 I've been reading alot of posts here on the subject of hi end/low end, /hi$/low$ scopes I thought I'd give my 2cents.

   I've been deer hunting every yr. since I was 14 and now I'm 32 up till 2003 I used an old 30-06 Rock Island model1903 open sights and heavy as hell! In 2003 I bought a Remington 710

 .30-.06 wich came with a Bushnell Sharpshooter 3x9x40 about a $40 scope. I've never had a season go buy with out filling my tags. I've hunted In some horrible weather (crazy winters here in ND) I sight it in about a week before seaon and I've never had a problem with it! Even with the recoil of the gun I've probably put 500 rounds through the gun in the last 4yrs. and I love it.  

 Sure I'd like to put on a higher quallity scope, but considering I'm a blue collar worker supporting a family of 4, I have a hard enough time  finding funds in the budget to buy ammo, let alone a high dollar scope to show off to my friends. I'ts just not needed alot of shooting practice and a little common sense is all thats really needed to fill freezer every yr.

  sorry so long, just my $.02 on the subject.

Welcome to the OT, whether you return or not.  Your points are well taken and I myself have asked questions and posed similar thoughts on this site, my point being, is that everyone cannot afford and expensive rifle scope.  My other point that I posed, was what were the best rifle scopes less than a 100 dollars that SWFA sold, as if a solid company such as they are, then the products they sell should be worth buying or else they should not offer them.  My nephew and future son in law both have scopes similar to yours on similar rifles and have never re-zerored theirs in 10 years, at least, and are still right on target and continue to get their limits every year.  In fact, I gave my future son in law a Wby. Vanguard 300 Wby. and put a Bushnell Trophy 3x9 50mm on it, not the best, but respectable, sighted it in and still picks up that A-Bolt 270 Winchester, as he just does not feel comfortable with the sighting in on the other rifle.  I also have to say, sometimes simpler is more reliable.  A single tube scope, without an AO, quick focus and a minimal number of relay lens, may be less prone to breaking in the long run, if properly assembled.  Those Mercedes Benzs repair records are sure worse than those lower end Toyotas.  I have mentioned it before, as there is a thread going on NC Star scopes, which is junk, but S&K scope mounts and rings manufacturer actually sells them on their website, which, to me, cheapens their product, which is great.  Nobody seems to have commented on that.  Why do they sell those cheap, Chinese made pieces of sh*t, that cost less than their own products.  Amazing.

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 For well less than a $100, I know several guys that swear by Bushnell Trophy 3x9x40"s.

 I gotta admit, back in the "day", pretty much everybody I knew used Trophy's , Sportviews, and Tasco's- including yours truly-...  ( If ya had some dinero- then a  Leupold ) . I don't remember any " failing" at the moment of truth.....Simpler times !?!?

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dont take this wrong cause i know how it is with money being tight ,theres a reason remington puts a scope on the 710 when they leave the factory, im not at all impressed with them, in fact they had problems with them when they first came out there was a recall on the action i do believe, but i wont knock you for owning the 710, im just stating truth here, i dont trust scopes until $150 class, i have heard to many horror stories about the big one that got away cause of a bushnell banner, trophy or tasco whatever, i do realize that any scope company will turn a lemon out from time to time usually no matter how expensive it is, i do feel more safe with a better quality scope though, so i think spending a few extra dollars is worth it in the long run
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As I type this, there are at least three for sure, and maybe five of my best whitetail trophies on my walls that would not be there if I had hunted the last thirty years with scopes lesser than my Leupolds. I also cringe to wonder how many more would be there, had I been using a Kahles or Swarovski, IOR or Zeiss all that time...

  Seemingly small differences in image quality, resolution,and brightness pay compound interest over long years in the fields and forests...

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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

As I type this, there are at least three for sure, and maybe five of my best whitetail trophies on my walls that would not be there if I had hunted the last thirty years with scopes lesser than my Leupolds. I also cringe to wonder how many more would be there, had I been using a Kahles or Swarovski, IOR or Zeiss all that time...

  Seemingly small differences in image quality, resolution,and brightness pay compound interest over long years in the fields and forests...

 

i couldnt agree with you more

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Thanks for all the replies folks., Yes I'll still stick around. I think this sight is very informative and has shed alot of light on the scope subjects I've had.Thanks for the heads up on the 710 recall, I checked it out mine was built later and the problem was allready taken care of.

later,

Joe

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If you want a decent scope for less than a $100, then you could do much worse than a Tasco World Class.
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Originally posted by Dolphin Dolphin wrote:

 I have mentioned it before, as there is a thread going on NC Star scopes, which is junk, but S&K scope mounts and rings manufacturer actually sells them on their website, which, to me, cheapens their product, which is great.  Nobody seems to have commented on that.  Why do they sell those cheap, Chinese made pieces of sh*t, that cost less than their own products.  Amazing.

 

While it does seem strange and rather counter-intuitive, there's really no comment that can be made other than the fact they sell nice rings and crappy scopes.  Obviously their scope mount customers must not be the same customers that would buy the scopes, because I have a hard time believing someone who would buy a $50 scope would pay more for a set of rings.  But, they manufacture the rings and not the scopes.  There are plenty of good, reputable companies that sell both great products and bad products out of the same facility.  The important thing is whether or not they will stand behind what they sell.

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