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Well fellas , I started gathering my elk hunting paraphernalia and I realized I have lost my Cabela's  8x40 binos are missing.  I leave in 3 week hunting I need a good recommendation for a replacement  . I want 8x40 /8x42 $3-600  price range  What is really standing out in this price point.   thanks Mike   
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If you are going to wear a bino harness, then you might look at (or through) the Leupold McKinley. One of the better ones in your price range, but it is IMO too heavy to wear around your neck for a long period of time. The Zen-Ray Prime might also be a good choice too, but I've not used one.

If you will be using a neckstrap, then you might look at the 42mm's that weigh less. A good example is the Nikon Monarch 7 8x42, which IIRC weighs less than 23oz..

The Krueger Caldera 8x42 can be purchased new for about $325, and would be a very good and cost-efficient choice. PM me if you don't know where to get these at this price.
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I do use a harness ,I ohave never loked through a pair of McKinley binos . Any thoughts on Meopta meopro. 8x42?Weight is a concern and the reason I ditched my stiener 10x50's
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Could spend just a hair more and get these -
 
 
appear to be a NOS item due to more than one availible.
 
 
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Wow! $ 400. Is a lot more than $449.
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Originally posted by porkchop401 porkchop401 wrote:

I do use a harness ,I ohave never loked through a pair of McKinley binos . Any thoughts on Meopta meopro. 8x42?Weight is a concern and the reason I ditched my stiener 10x50's


While I think the non-HD Meopro is a very good bino, they are rather heavy. IMO they are a bit over-priced too. If weight is a concern, I would suggest getting one of the lighter 8x42's. The Monarch 7 I mentioned is the lightest I know of. It will serve your purpose, and as it is currently on sale for under $400, will cost much less than a McKinley or Viper HD or similar.
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Look at the most basic Zeiss.  The Cabelas are normally Mepros and are a reasonable choice.   I trend Nikon, but The basic Zeiss out perform alot of stuff when it starts to get dark.
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There is really not a bad binocular in that price range today.  The only one I can think of that I would not use unless I had no other choice is the Bushnell Legend Ultra HD.  I've had a couple of those and the field distortion started in the outer 50% of the field and was really annoying.  Maybe the curvature of that system is not a match for my eyes.  However they are worth a look as their center field resolution is really good.  If they match your eyes so much the better.

I have owned and used a lot of glass in that range.  There are a bunch I'd recommend, included, but not necessarily limited to, are:

Zen Ray ZRS HD, about $210
Bushnell Ultra HD about $210-2220
Zen Ray ZEN ED 3 about $450
Zen Ray Prime HD about $600
Leupold McKinley about $600
Nikon Monarch 7 about $450
Kruger Caldera can be found for $300 or so.
Minox BL comfort bridge series, about $450
Steiner Predator Xtreme, about $350
Vortex Viper HD, usually a little less than $600

The new kid in this block is the Zeiss Terra ED, got a look at these a couple of times and I can say I'm impressed.  Local dealer has these for $319.  Nobody would have batted an eye lid if Zeiss was charging double for these bad boys.

Now you will likely get all sorts of advice about spending above your budget and the advice will be based on several lines of reasoning.  I'd ignore it for the most part.  Not because I necessarily disagree with it, it is just a plain and simple fact of life these days that you do not have to fork out more that your stated budget to get really good glass, better in fact than a lot of expensive stuff from even ten years ago.

It is also a waste of effort, I have come to think, to fuss and fret over is ...this glass better than that one and how do these two compare...etc.  As I said above there is not an inherently bad glass in that price range anymore.  What will separate any two binoculars for any particular user is not necessarily the image quality.  They will all probably be good enough, or at least close enough that calling meaningful difference will be a frustrating exercise. 

What will seal the deal is how well the eye relief suits you, and how well the eye cup extension matches the binocular and your eyes.  This gets off kilter and you get black outs and that is annoying.  Also pay attention to how well the eye cup size fits your face.  How well does the binocular fit your hands.  Can you pick a target with your naked eye, grab the binocular and is your target centered when you raise the binocular yo your eyes.  This is the stuff that makes a difference, and it is pretty personal.  What matches me may not suit you.

So my advice, other than my general list above, is to go see what of those you can find.  If that brings you to one you really like, then like it and be happy.  Don't worry so much about wondering if you had got a Kruger Caldera would have been better than a ZEN ED 3, or...shoot everybody knows Zeiss knows their stuff I should have looked at the Terra ED.  You will go nuts.  What you can see with any one on that list (or others I forgot or have been mentioned by others) you can see with any on the list.  What you can see with a high end Swarovski you can also see with anything on that list too.  Now if you have some specific questions about anything I mentioned, go ahead and ask. I've had just about all of them side by side.


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Obviously the gentleman above me knows a great deal more than me. However, I'd like to say that I love my ZenRay ED3 8x43 binos. I doubt whether you could get better binos for the money - and even if you could then I'd still say that buying the zen rays could never be considered a mistake.
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I have a set of the Swarovski Companion cl 8x30 on the way.
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Well it never fails .... After I ordered new Binos I a digging around in my duffle bag and lo and behold there is my Binoculars! Man I feel like a DUMB ASS So I call the vendor and they told me to refuse the order but I would be on the hook for the freight .   Can you say happy dance time!!!!!!!!!!          
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