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i have a ruger 10/22 im looking for a good quality scope for it.  i dont mind spending a few hundred bucks on it.  can i use any scope or is there specifically made scopes for .22 cal rifles.
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I have a couple of Simmons scopes on my 10/22's. A 4x fixed and their 3-9x with adjustable Parallax. They are cheap and work okay. I think my next one will be a Nikon Prostaff 4x fixed. Generally speaking, the specific scopes for .22's have their scopes set to be parallax free at 50 yards vs. big game scopes that are generally set to be parallax free at 150 yards. For a top of the line .22 scope, check out the Leupold rimfire scopes. They run a couple hundred plus, but they are excellent quality. I find the fixed 4 power to be adequate magnification for the .22 rimfire, and the fixed power seems to be clearer and brighter, even in the cheap Simmons scopes.
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2ndtimer,  ive check out leupold rimfire scopes and also their ultralight models.  i noticed they all have a cap covering the windage and elevation adjustment screws.  and they all have duplex reticles except for the ultralight VX2 models which has the LR duplex, i dont know if that is for .22 LR or what that means.  do you know if the LR duplex reticles is specifically for .22 ammo?   ill keep looking around,  also why dont these rimfire scops have exposed adjustment knobs?
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have you had any experience with Weaver?

http://swfa.com/Weaver-25-7x28-Classic-Rimfire-Rifle-Scope-P600.aspx
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Vortex Vipers scopes are great.  However if I was gonna scope a new 22 right now I think I would go with the SS6X but i don't use it for hunting so you may want a lower variable
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Originally posted by Pistol Pete Pistol Pete wrote:

have you had any experience with Weaver?

http://swfa.com/Weaver-25-7x28-Classic-Rimfire-Rifle-Scope-P600.aspx

I have that very scope sitting on my 22 LR.  I really like it.  Great scope for the price.
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Are you gonna be hunting, target work, or both?
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Generally the "rimfire" model scopes might be a little bit smaller or lighter. But their main thing is usually a parallax set for around 50-70 yards. These tend to be better for hunting.  If you are wanting a paper puncher they make them with adjustable parallax. Alot of people (myself included) use centerfire rifle scopes with adjustable parallax.  
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Originally posted by Pistol Pete Pistol Pete wrote:

2ndtimer,  ive check out leupold rimfire scopes and also their ultralight models.  i noticed they all have a cap covering the windage and elevation adjustment screws.  and they all have duplex reticles except for the ultralight VX2 models which has the LR duplex, i dont know if that is for .22 LR or what that means.  do you know if the LR duplex reticles is specifically for .22 ammo?   ill keep looking around,  also why dont these rimfire scops have exposed adjustment knobs?
 
 
The Leupold ultalight "LR" stands for long range duplex, not necessary on a rimfire.
+1 on the viper, a 2-7x32 is in your budget and would look great on your rifle.
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thanks you everyone for yall information, its going to help me when i buy a new scope. also my first scope.  i have used  reflex sites and irons. 

stork23raz,  im going to use this scope on my ruger 10/22. ive made no modifications to it yet, ive put about 750 rounds through it.  it is the black synthetic stock model, bought brand new from cabelas.  i know there are a lot of mods that can be done to this gun, which i plan to do later on in life.  but right now my intent is to use it for plinking around.  after i get my scope ill probly go to the range and bzo it.  and test out differnt ammo.  and also ill use it for the occasional squirl or coons if they become a problem.

also i have a quesiton about one of your responses. you said you use a adjustable parallax scope.  now does that mean and adjustable objective lens?  or is it a completely different adjustment?  i have read about scopes have an adjustable parallax and also scopes that have adjustable objective lens.  i know an adjustable objective lens is used to focus the picture at different distances, but i could be wrong on that.  and the price of a scope with adjustable parallax and/or adjustable objective lens will be quite a bit more than one without?  also im willing to spend quite a bit on this scope because i have future plans to buy a new larger caliber bolt action rifle that will be used for hunting whitetale deer and other medium/large size game.  thanks
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Generally the parrallax adjustment is for scopes over 10 power. There are several types of parrallax adjustment.

Front- (Its made into the objective bell) cheapest. very precise.   some go as close as 7 yards
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-3200-Rifle-Scope-P240.aspx

side- (opposite of the windage knobs)  more expensive, most dont get closer than 50 yards.
http://swfa.com/Nikon-45-14x40-Buckmaster-Riflescope-P42208.aspx

rear- (where the power ring would be takes place of so only used on fixed power scopes)
http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-6x42-Tactical-Riflescope-P47326.aspx

A gun without a parallax adjustment of some sort is going to cost less. its not a real big deal for big game hunting unless your shooting them from  a LONG way out. Most centerfire scopes have theirs set to 100 yards. Adjustable parallax is generally used for target work and small/varmint game hunting. If your squirrel hunting, then a small 3 power scope with a 50 yard fixed parallax is perfectly fine. 
Parallax is kinda like a optical illusion. It can make your crosshairs appear not where your gun is zeroed. You can kinda cheat it by making sure that you eye is in the exact same position every you pull up the scope. If you have  a non adjustable parallax scope I can show you how to tell how much it can screw you up (generally no more than an inch for every hundred yards). The higher the power the more it appears to be noticeable. Pick up the scope, point it on a target say 20 -30 yards away. hold the scope in place and move your head left, right, up down,  make a little circles with your head. You should see the crosshairs kinda move a little as you move. It wont me dramatic but a little.
If you want a scope with it, they are bigger and heavier in general.
Say for squirrel hunting, set your parallax down to 50yards or so then back the scope off very low power and that would be fine. 
If you have any more questions, or if I confused you. Let me know I will try to do a better job of explaining. Also their are more people on here that can explain better in easier terms.


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This is a good squirrel scope. Small light compact.
http://swfa.com/Leupold-4x28-FX-I-Rimfire-Riflescope-P3259.aspx

A good rimfire with parallax.
http://swfa.com/Leupold-3-9x33-VX-II-Rimfire-EFR-Riflescope-P3277.aspx

For rimfire try to keep the objective size small.  So you can mount it lower. I got Savage mark II with a heavy 22" barrel bipod and SS10x. Great scope for target work. Not for hunting. I have a ruger carbine 10/22 for hunting. The ruger is not even in the same class as accuracy but the weight and size is why I take the ruger out.

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ok newb question here,  what range do you zero your scope at on your .22, im going to guess somewhere between 50 and 100 yards.  hypothetical question say my scope on my 10/22 is zeroed at 75 yards.  and a squirrel presents himself at 25 yards,  now when im looking through the glass do i just offset the cross hairs to compensate for the shorter distance.  or do i adjust the elevation knob on my scope to a known setting for that distance? thanks

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well Ive never had a squirrel sit still long enough for me to crank some knobs. for my ruger i zero it at 50. some people do 25 some do 70.  Anyway. whatever you zero at you need to practice at several different distance and know what ur rifle is going to do at each distance. So when ur hunting you either aim a little high or low. The key is to practice alot at different distances. practice practice practice.  each rifle is different. find an ammo the rifle likes. and use that for practice and hunting.

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thanks for all your help man,  i cant wait till i get back home so i can shoot my guns.  i still have 5 months. so im just researching everything i can about it.  one last question, maybe i should put this in the other forums about rings, but ill just put it here for now.  i was looking at scope rings and mounts, why are some $160 and other $30?  are the high dollar ones even needed for a  .22 cal?
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well most of the 100+ rings are for heavy duty equipment and such. alot of them weigh double your regular rings. Go with a good brand. Burris, Leupold, Warne, Weaver, and any other good brands. You will need whatever size your scope is 1" or 30mm. When It comes to ring height that depends on the objective size of your scope. I would call SWFA and say I want this scope on this gun and I want these rings., and what height will I need.
There are alot of different rings. Weaver rings are very popular on 22's. Everyone has there opinion on rings.
These are great rings I really like them.
http://swfa.com/Burris-Signature-Zee-1-Rings-P1308.aspx
These are very cool rings. They have inserts so you dont have to lap the rings. They also correct  for misalignments in mounts. watch this little video about the rings it can explain them better than I can
http://www.burrisoptics.com/sigrings.html


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Both of my 10/22's have Weaver single piece Weaver bases with Weaver top mount rings. I have had them on for twenty years with no problems. They are reliable, cost effective and ugly.
If I get around to replacing them I will get the http://swfa.com/Talley-Lightweight-Aluminum-1-Scopemount-P2845.aspx rings. The bottom half is the base and bottom of the ring. There are less parts and they are also trim and good looking, IMO.
I have 4X and 2-7x32 big game scopes on these .22's and parallax is a non-issue for small game like squirrels.
I like the comment about squirrels waiting for someone to dial in.Thunbs Up
 
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I wouldn't buy the high dollar ones for a 22.  Like someone said the expensive ones are for higher calibers.  Millet has good rings at low cost, I put some tactical Millet's on my Rem. 700 tactical 308, very happy with them especially for the price.
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